Editing Expression Map (Real Time)

Simple question:

I am interested in creating an expression map for a drum kit.
I am primarily interested in note durations and “first beat of the bar” accent amounts – things like this.

I am wondering, if I have the expression map created and applied to the kit, are these adjustments applied as soon as they are entered when editing the map (enter #, press “Enter”), or are they only applied once the map is saved and “OK” is pressed, closing the menu?
[edit: this is all referring to “Playback Overrides”]

If the latter is the case, then it seems like editing these maps precisely would take quite a while.

I have the most recent version of Dorico.

Once you’ve clicked Apply, I’m pretty sure that they are applied and active.

Yep! It will obviously depend on how much detail you want to go in to.

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Thank you!

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Have you tried editing one for yourself yet? Does it behave in this way?

So far as I can tell, it’s impossible to tweak the map to one’s liking. If you have the map open while playing and save (apply), at least in my project, it’s 50/50 whether you get a crash. Also, it has to apply the changes each save, which means a ~seconds long dropout of sound that makes small changes hard to judge.

I would be more than happy to be wrong, but I can’t find a way to do it properly yet.

This is really the biggest problem I face with Dorico, when generalized. Doing anything during playback is dangerous, I have sent about 30 crash reports today alone. Just due to the lack of a loop feature. I am editing a drum VSTi while playing back, and have a section “looped” with bar repeats, but once the 49 repeats are up, I have to go reset the playhead. This will often crash the program. Then comes the cycle of “will the project load without crashing / how many attempts will it take”. Stability is very poor for this sort of work.

The only real saving grace is that occasionally the VSTi window will stay open after Dorico crashes (?) long enough to save the changes made to its own internal preset, so I can just recall the work that way once Dorico is running again.

If you’ve moved up to Dorico 5.1.20 in the last 24 hours and are experiencing a lot of crashes, we know what the problem is and we’re on the case. We should have a hot fix available soon, perhaps as soon as later today.

Yes, as per the other thread where you answered, I updated and the crashes are all gone. Thank you so much, Daniel!