Not sure if you’ll set this on your TODO list, but to me it’s very important to emulate the function of a physical sustain pedal without one being connected.
Like, being able to permanently send CC > 64 for sustain.
In Cubase I could do this using input transformer, but there’s no way in VST live (and I couldn’t find any VST for this too).
Perhaps it’s more likely you’ll add it to your TODO if you can implement this as part of a latch function (sustain only pressed as long as you don’t press a new key / chord), which may be relevant for more people
transform that voltage coming from the sustain pedal jack in a MIDI Message, in that case a CC64
The trigger (pedal) is external, so VST Live somehow has to receive the sustain via MIDI. And I’d like it to just send out the CC 64 to the VST used permanently, without the necessity for a physical pedal to be pressed.
Yes, that could explain why the effect seemed to go away after a while… It’s in fact the reason why I don’t just use the pedal with reversed polarity, since I always thought Cubase or HALion SE had issues with it.
Around the time I managed to map sustain to the Mod Wheel using input transformer I also switched to Noire Piano and the issue almost vanished, but still occurred after a while (sustain seemed ‘reduced’ and limited). I guess this is just due to a higher polyphony of Noire, then…
Thanks for clearing up that mystery for me lol
So what would be the proper way to go, if I work on piano pieces that basically require pedal to be pressed down all / most of the time?
Finding a release setting in Noire / Kontakt und use that?
The release knob in HALion didn’t provide me with the same amount of Sustain (not the same length) as the Sustain pedal, even if I turn it up to maximum value.
I mean, there are rather slow paced compositions like the following out there:
In Musescore it’s no issue to just add a pedal notation so the strings keep ringing and don’t destroy the mood. What would I ideally need to do in a DAW to accomplish the same behaviour?
That’s not the same and will never sound exactly the same. I tried
I mean, the ‘proper’ way to go on it would be a pressed pedal / sustain, and the midi standard and DAWs that support said standard are at least 20 years, if not even older. A quick Google search tells me MIDI was invented back in the 80s even.
And yet people (you weren’t the first) try to tell me we cannot properly imitate a permanent piano pedal, even though there are lots of songs out there that make use of that very technique?
For production this isn’t an issue if you can just add the sustain as effect later on, but it’s a major bummer if you want to play something that requires sustain… It feels like there is no ‘correct’ solution and you always end up with weird tricks such as reverb effects.
but the scores… scores are showing all releases. It’s not permanent there either.
But… no probl… just create a new MIDI track, draw a clip, open with MIDI editor, and drop a few SUSTAIN CC’s there
Set routing help the Sustain CC reach your piano synth
