EQ meters- reposted

hi,

in Frequency 2 equalizer, white noise appears to indicate a line at -18 dB
but the same signal for the equalizer in Channel Settings shows -12 dB.

Something I need to click to get the same readings?

Best regards,

GO

p.s. ‘Attachment’ might be less confusing than ‘Upload’.

Can’t see the channel output meter in your screenshot.

Always when I see the question of level discrepancies and the difference is 6dB I think that it’s about routing or something. So for example - if you have a mono track that goes into a stereo output then the input signal you see in a plugin will look different than the track meter if the meter is set post-panner.

So, show the track meter, show pan law, show routing, and tell us where in the signal chain the track meter is measuring level.

Input/instrument track and Output are stereo (i.e double rings in mixer).

Signal chain is white noise generated by Halion.

Frequency 2 is pre-fader. No panning (i.e. centred).

Regards,

GO

Similar result here using tone generator, white noise at -20dB. Stereo pan law equal power in project settings.

Can’t see the track meter.

Sorry, I’ll try again! :smiley:

I think you’re probably just looking at the wrong meter or maybe you don’t realize what it is. The meter with the red arrow isn’t absolute level, it is how much you change levels; “gain change”:

The green arrow indicates absolute level according to what you set the meter to measure. The green probably corresponds exactly to what Frequency shows.

Click on the number “-10.7” below the meter to reset it and I’m guessing it’ll show -18 as well. That number will hold according to your preferences so if you ever had a signal peak at -10.7 it’ll hold that until you click/reset it.

Yeps, I realise that, I’m curious why the difference between the built in channel EQ level and frequencys level. I realise it’s probably just another gap in my self taught knowledge, but always good to try fill those gaps when a chance arises, you don’t know what you don’t know etc. :slight_smile:

There’s a difference?

Well, visually there seems to be, I thought that was what the OP was getting at, and I tried to replicate and noticed the same thing. Again, I realise It’s probably my lack of understanding something, but now I’m curious as to what. :slight_smile:

You are right, good catch. The other attribute of the Channel strip EQ is that 0db is 0db indeed.

Ah, ok.

In the settings for Frequency you can set it to show one or two channels. There is no equivalent for the channel strip EQ. The Studio EQ with your settings seems to be pretty much 6dB louder than Frequency.

If you want to experiment with this can figure it out I would recommend creating a mono track with Test Generator followed by Frequency on it, and then also instantiate Frequency on your Stereo Out bus. Then play with a) showing one or both channels in Frequency plugins, b) panning the signal left/right, and c) pan law.

Compare to the channel strip EQ. I think it probably makes sense based on what I saw but my brain is too tired to figure it out.

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Okay, will do, thanks for the suggestions. :slight_smile:

I think this might just be a misinterpretation of the y-axis rule in the plugins.
The left side y-axis rule isn’t the level of the incoming audio, it is the +/- gain, in db, that each parametric band is modifying the audio.
It’s a coincidence that the channel strip happens to show it it near -12db. The meter level should read the value you set the noise generator to.

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Lol, Oh yes, you are correct of course, and I did actually know this believe it or not, it’s kind of obvious when working with the eq. Call it a brain fart/stupidity on my part. Thanks for that, no idea why it didn’t ‘click’ last night, bit worrying tbh! :slight_smile:

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