Existing tracks being recorded on new tracks in Cakewalk with UR22 mkII

Steinberg Hardware UR Series
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I’m trying to troubleshoot a problem my daughter has with Cakewalk and her UR22II.

We both have identical DAW setups namely i7 cpu, 32GB RAM, 500GB SSD running Win 11 Pro as fresh installs and the latest Yamaha Steinberg ASIO driver (2.1.7.5). We are running BandLab’s Cakewalk as our DAWs. No other software on either machine.

I have an original UR22, while she has a UR22II. Cakewalk is set to use the YS ASIO driver and the UR22s appear correctly as the input and output audio devices in it.

The problem - she can record a first track no problem. However if she tries to record a second track the audio from the first track is copied onto the new track.
With my near-identical setup and with all settings under input/output preferences in Cakewalk and track in/out routings being the same as hers my Cakewalk doesn’t record the first track audio onto the second track and I can build up a track-by-track recording in the normal way. But she can’t do this because all existing audio is recorded onto new tracks.

We eliminated any kind of external audio loop by disconnecting all audio cables from the UR22II and recordng a new track but it still duplicates the existing audio. So it seems to be a software problem.

I’ve read that others have had similar problems and it’s been caused by some sort of ‘record what you hear’ setting with their soundcard. But far as I can see there is no such setting in the Yamaha Steinberg ASIO driver, nor in Windows 11 that I can find.

So I’m baffled. Essentially we have near-identcal systems aside from the difference in UR22 generation, but my system works as expected and hers does not.

Can anyone suggest where we’re going wrong here? Thank you.

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Have you tried swapping the two interfaces (UR22 <=> UR22II) between the two laptops? Does the issue move with the interface then or does it stay on the same computer?

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Not yet, that’s my next move. I can’t get to her place until tomorrow.

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Also check if Loopback is (de)activated in the YS USB driver settings.

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I’ve been looking for that but can’t see any such setting. The ASIO Panel for 2.1.7.5 only gives options for sample rate and buffer size. Unless I’m looking in the wrong place?

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The Loopback setting is mentioned in the UR22 MKII Operation Manual:

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It seems that activating Loopback could cause the described behavior.

ur22mkII_en.pdf (2.1 MB)

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But it isn’t mentioned in the Mk1 manual and isn’t on my driver settings panel so I didn’t know to suggest it. Chances are it is on hers though, and that’ll fix it. I’ve asked her to check and am optimistic this could be it! Will report back.

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'As implied by the “mkII” designation, the UR22mkII is
an evolved descendant of the UR22. The most
prominent new features are iOS support and a
loopback function. ’

Boom!

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The UR22 (MKI) doesn’t have the Loopback capability.

UR22_OperationManual_en.pdf (577.4 KB)

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Yep just gathered that. She’s away from her rig at the moment but I’m pretty sure you’ve solved this. Will confirm when I can.

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And solved! Thank you so much ASM you’re a star. Cheers!

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