Exponential Crescendo/Decrescendo in Dorico

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Hello everyone!
Can we do exponential crescendo?

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For comparison, in Bach, the MaxMSP library made by Andrea Agostini and Daniele Ghisi, you have the same kind of popover to enter things like dynamics. You can find this kind of crescendo/decrescendo by typing “<<” which is really practical! Do we have this feature here?
Thank you very much

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You can customize the size of the flares too:

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Oh that’s pretty cool, I wasn’t aware of that toggle!

I wish it could effect playback though… (I just checked, it appears to make no difference). In fact on the whole I would love to see the ability to enter custom override volume curves for any selected hairpins, since some virtual instruments require a bit of different love in that regard from the global playback settings. And being able to have exponential swells in playback be would be fantastic.

But good to know I can engrave this!

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But couldn’t you adjust this in MIDI? (I don’t know, haven’t used the MIDI editor yet…)

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Yes, you can. It just takes exponentially more time (pun intended!), and I find automation in Dorico to be not the easiest to work with compared to my experiences in DAWs - compared to Cubase or Logic it’s rather wonky and wily. I would love the ability to do it right in the score with immediacy which feels most musical to me. Also, ideally like most elements even with overrides - you could alt+click them anywhere else in the score, which could be a really handy way of duplicating this behind-the-scenes automation to other instruments very quickly.

Two such examples I do this frequently for are arpeggios and fermatas/caesuras. Yes, you can tweak that in the key editor, but I find the overrides now available in the bottom panel are a lot faster and feels more of a musical approach than drawing graphs, to me anyway. So I would love to see this available for dynamics.

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Understood.

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Thank you all! it is great!

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It would be really wonderful if the flared hairpin option included smooth curves for the flares (of the kind that Samir indicated in the original post) – particularly if there were a universal engraving setting to toggle between linear and curved as a default for the appearance of all flared hairpins in a project. (I’m a new Dorico user who migrated from Finale and I’m loving the software – thanks so much to the awesome development team!)

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Any news on how to enhance the dynamic explosion at the end of an exponential crescendo?

thanks!