??? just to be clear… you mean that the files/events are of the same duration when you test in a new Nuendo project?
It seems so. If you look at the Audio Pool windos picture from my previous posts, then you’ll see that they have the same length of 19.889 s.
But in the project window the denoised file is longer that the original one.
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So, you mean that the files/events are of the same duration when you test in a new Nuendo project? Please give a simple answer yes or no. I’m assuming you mean Yes!
If the two files are of the same duration in a new Nuendo project it means that you have some setting in the old test project which is having an effect upon the length of the events in the Project window. This could be an event or track based parameter, or something embedded in the file, or maybe you made an error with regards to which file(s) is / are being used ??
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Yes. The files I’m using in this example are correct.
What setting in Nuendo could cause such a huge dicrepancy?
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As already mentioned, I’d suspect Musical mode but of course this was not the culprit in this case. The other possibility would be sample rate at the time of import. Another would be an error with regard to file selection and/or sample rate in the Pool. Wrong choice of sample rate in Project setup. Data embedded in the file. A bug.
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I still highly suspect Spectralayers to be the culprit here, because,
I just installed Izotope RX 11 demo and did the same denoising procedure there, and then I open a new Nuendo project import the original file and then import the denoised by RX 11 file and it works.
So, I think that something in Spectralayers is porbably kinda broken.
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The test you describe provides no evidence of an issue in SpectraLayers.
I can report that I see no evidence for and cannot reproduce an issue in SpectraLayers. Without provision of the test files I can give no further assistance.
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Here is the original undenoised wav (96Khz 24Bit mono ) file.
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Test results using the test file 01-BD-out_02.wav
Procedure
De-noised the file and exported the result from SpectraLayers in the standard manner using File>Export Mixdown. Original and denoised files tested in Wavelab, Nuendo 12 and Nuendo 13.
Results
- Analysed files in Wavelab. No error found in length of exported file. The exported de-noised file duration matched that of the original.
- Imported test files into a new project in Nuendo 12. In this case I can confirm the exact same result as shown in your screenshot. One event is longer than the other. I have no explanation for this.
- Imported test files into a new project in Nuendo 13. In this case, I see a successful result. The events after import are shown with the exact same length.
Conclusion
There may be a bug in Nuendo 12. IMO there is no bug in this regard with SpectraLayers 11.
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Thank you so much for doing the test on your side.
I also tested on my other workstation with the same results.
But I still wonder why the exported wav file from RX 11 worked fine in Nuendo 12 whereas the one from Spectralayers didn’t.
Maybe there seem to be an issue in both Nuendo and SPectralayers in one way or another.
Thats very strange.
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That’s a good point. You may be right.
Nuendo 12 might be misinterpreting something embedded in the SpectraLayers file. But Nuendo 13 does not suffer the same issue. So I’d tend to point the finger at Nuendo 12. I may be wrong.
Regardless. If you want a solution it might mean upgrading to Nuendo 13 (or 14 when it arrives).
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Yeah, the export window in RX11 also has additional features like keeping embedded non metadata, BWF and so on, wheres Spectralayers doesn’t and maybe that could be the culprit.
At this point I’m out of ideas.
Maybe a hotfix could be a solution.
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I doubt there would any hotfix for 12.
I’ve just found out this may be a bug in N12, but there’s a workaround. The anomaly seems to occur only if you import to the very start of the project! Place the cursor instead on bar 2 for example and import, and the ‘bug’ does not happen… the events for the imported files will have the same length.
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Now thats interesting. I’ll try it tomorrow.
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I’ve experienced this twice in the last six months. I used Unmix Song.
The first time the file was the same length but the content had shifted on one of the layers. I moved the file back into Cubase 13 so that it was synchronized with the other files, cut the file at the beginning, and added it to the end. It worked fine.
The second time was a week ago. Then the file became shorter. Synchronized it to the end, and thus everything was in sync.
No content was lost these times. I reduce noise on almost all the files I work on in SpectraLayers.
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Hi, sorry I’m not sure what’s causing the issue here. I suspect something with metadata as well.
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@Robin_Lobel Hi Robin, thank you so much for chiming in. It maybe really has something to do with metadata.
When I was exporting with RX11 there was the ability to preserve some kind of metadata, so maybe that could be the missing link in SL11
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Yes I am experiencing similar problem using latest Spectralayers Pro 11 and Cubase 14 Pro. Length of displayed track is longer than actual recording.
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Good to know I’m not the only one with this issue.
Hopefully Robin can find the problem and create a hotfix for SL 11
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Cubase has a reassuring audio pre-recording setting of 1 second.
Probably the same for Nuendo.
After recording, this pre-recording part will no longer be visible.
If you move the start position you can confirm that the data is present.
If you open the recorded audio file directly from the Audio folder in your Cubase project without exporting it,
you will be editing the audio file with SpectraLayers,
including the pre-recorded part.
If you export it with SpectraLayers and then import it back into Cubase, it will appear to be a different length unless you manually hide the pre-recorded part.
Do not load directly from Cubase’s Audio folder.
Go to the “File” menu and select “Export.”