I just spent the better part of my Saturday creating expression maps for some of the libraries in my orchestral template and assigning them to their respective instruments. I then saved the template and created opened it again to test it, only to find that the expression maps I had created were no longer assigned to the instrument tracks. They still show up in the “expression map setup” screen, but apparently the information of which expression map was saved to which instrument did not get saved with the project. Have I done something wrong here, or is this a known bug?
I also have the same issue took the whole day to do and my template has not saved the expression maps I assigned before I saved as a template
Problem still not fixed in Cubase 13 Pro. I have to assign most expression maps again when starting a new project from an existing template which was saved with expression maps assigned to all instrument tracks.
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@arjenhd
Out of curiosity, do track archives save the EMap in CB13 ?
Regards
Sin
Just tried building a template on Cubase 14 and just assigned all new expression maps to my orchestral libraries. Same issue, all my expression maps assigned on tracks in folders, do not show up when loading the saved template.
How can Steinberg miss this for years? Expression maps and making orchestral templates is an expected use case. Has anyone heard if a fix is planned and does anyone know the current status on improving expression maps? The current expression map editing UX is truly terrible!
Never had this issue in any version of Cubase.
Are you actually saving the maps (as a .expressionmap file)? And not just in a project template?
I agree that the maps gui could be improved, but I save the map as I go, and when assigned, they stay assigned until I remove them.
You misunderstand. When you build an orchestral project with instrument tracks and the add expression maps, the expression map assigned do not carry over when you save the project as a template and then load the template as a new project.
It also seems like assigned expression maps still can lose assignment if you disable a track with an expression map, close the project then open the project and enable the track (sometime it is not assigned again).
For some reason Steinberg has not fixed this issue for years (still an issue in Cubase 14).
If you think this is important to fix (I do), please vote.
Vote to push this issue higher on the list.
On the contrary. I have templates with expression maps for MOJO brass, EastWest choir and vocal libraries, guitars, bass and organs. They all load up as expected, in new projects.
EDIT
I’ve just noticed the key word “Instrument” tracks - mine are all MIDI tracks. I’m going to have a look…
EDIT
Nope, it works with instrument and MIDI tracks. I create a template with tracks using expression maps, Save as a template, close Cubase, start Cubase, create a new project using said template, all the maps are there.
NOT saying there isn’t an issue, just that it may not be as clear cut as implied.
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But you should not have to save each expression map as a separate file for them to stay assigned (if that is the case). They are already saved within the project. That is the point here and those assigned should carry over when you save the project as a template.
Still an issue here.