Feature Request for a "modal zone"

Dear Daniel and Golden Team,
This is a feature request from Thierry Ecuvillon, a fellow Dorician from the French FB group. I hope this will raise some interest, as I found this idea really nice…
He suggests that it would be a very good idea to introduce a kind of UI that would work like the different zones we can use (for chords, for %, etc.) Once the modal zone is defined, the user could choose which mode would apply there. We’re not really talking about transposition, but a slight modification of certain pitches, so that they match a certain mode, without changing the overall key. He thinks it would be extremely useful as a compositional tool.
BTW, Thierry has written a “Traité de musique modale”, it’s in French, and I’m almost certain the musical examples have been made in Dorico…
Thanks for you interest, and if you have any questions, I’ll transmit them!


Thanks for the suggestion, Marc. This sounds a bit like conforming pitches to the chord track in Cubase. We may well have such features in Dorico in the future, though not soon.

What i think about, is a way to change the scale without a visual transposition. The solution i use at this time is to put for exemple 3 bemols at the bar , write music ans after erase the 3 Bemols to see them before notes. But if i want to test with 2 # i have to erase all flat , create a 2 sharp key and after erase the 2#. For test modal system, i am sure we can find a better solution

Super job !!! thank you :slight_smile:

map scale is super !!!.

i must be clear, I am really happy with this version 4 !

and specially with this map scale, so useful for me :slight_smile:

Regards, Thierry

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I think I have a handle on using most of the features in my workflow, now I’m wrapping my head around the Transform operations. So @EThierry this addresses your request? If you have other suggestions on using these new Transform tools I’d like to hear them.

The possibility of keeping the map scale windows open after validation could be useful for trying many scale step by step.
( and i think the possibility to choose generally, in préférence option, witch windows will be closed or still open after been used could be cool ).

A other possibility, a global track for map scale, for moving , copy, transform easeally the scale for all the orchestra, like the tempo track or marker track.

An other idea, is a transpose option in a global track, but it mean exception option for track who must be fixed (Drums, keyswitch,loop key )
After trying an transposition for all the score (+5, -12 ect…) an option to fixes it in score)
It can be useful for composer, and for singer on an existing music.

And an other domain, a tap tempo for recording , driving the orchestra as a conducteur

i suppose i could have a lot of new idea, but for this time, map scale make me an happy composer :slight_smile:

Well I was asking about compositional uses of the tool, not user interface suggestions :grin:

ok sorry, if you let me a mail, i can send to you a book i have writen for using the scale in modal .

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If steinberg want to use it for Dorico user, it is with pleasure, but the book is in french

Thanks but I don’t speak French :smile:

Balancier Modal sans texte.pdf (306.5 KB)

take a music in C-use the symetric system: if you want to have the 2d mode (Ré),
use the Bb scale. the mode on 4 (F) , use the G scale ECT…
if you are in an other scale of C all is transposed but keep the symetry system keeping the tone and semi tone space.
try, and sure you will be in love with you new music :slight_smile:

Bolero de Ravel.pdf (74.7 KB)
An exemple in C scale of using the modal symetric system