Feature request - the simplest of mixer automation

Not with NotePerformer!

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I’m afraid NotePerformer went years ago. Awful restrictive piece of software. NP is not a DAW. I need a true DAW like Cubase in the studio … together with Dorico, Wavelab and SpectraLayers.

That may be true for you, but the OP is using NotePerformer.

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You should still be able to hear this. It is a change of 4.15 dB. To my old ears, this is at the low end of what I find acceptable / perceivable as the change in loudness between adjacent dynamic markings.

Totally understood … but a lot of Dorico users do not know about the Dorico integration in Cubase 14/15 and are pleasantly surprised when I mention this on the Dorico Facebook Group. What Michael is struggling with is all in Cubase so that was my point. :wink:

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(a delayed reply)

Totally understood … but a lot of Dorico users do not know about the Dorico integration in Cubase 14/15 and are pleasantly surprised when I mention this on the Dorico Facebook Group. What Michael is struggling with is all in Cubase so that was my point. :wink:

The origin of this thread is about NOT going to a DAW to get better audio from a score.

In the last 40 years I’ve learned 4 or 5 notation programs and 4 or 5 DAWs. (Anyone remember Southworth’s Total Music or Opcode’s Vision?) And I’ve discovered that the music I make in a score is very different from the music I make in a DAW - they are very different tools that approach creativity differently.

Me, personally? I’m a score guy because of my classical background (though I of course acknowledge that great orchestral writing from others comes out of DAW work without the use of notation.) But creating some of my work in a DAW has felt like a painter in front of a canvas holding wood-working tools in his hands.

I’m sure Cubase is up there with my present DAW of choice (Logic) and probably better in some ways. But I’m not sure I want to learn another major piece of software just to more easily put some volume adjustments into my Dorico playback.

I’m just hoping that Dorico as a Steinberg product will not be hampered in the growth of its audio options just because Cubase has them already.

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Hopefully you are now using NP with its separate outputs and the Dorico mixer?

Yes, I upgraded to the latest NP and instruments are finally playing through their proper Dorico channels. I’m not sure what that does for me however.

Right now drawing CC 7 values have no effect on the volume of the NP instrument, nor do they move the Dorico mixer. The expression map has the following:

Because I’m not really working with velocity in Dorico, perhaps I should replace the secondary dynamic with CC7 and start every instrument with a default value (someone above mentioned that Dorico defaults to 100 for CC7.) Then I could use CC7 for little tweaks that won’t change the timbre (as changing CC11 will do.)

But I really wish that Dorico’s faders responded to those CC7 messages so I could see the present state at any spot. Otherwise I’m not sure what help the Dorico mixer is beyond an overall volume tweak for an instrument (which I usually do in the VST itself.)

NP is a self-contained system with its internal algorithm. Mess with its expression map at your peril, unless you really understand how it works. (just saying)

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