Fermata position on multiple voices in shared staff


When I set the “Max. fermatas per staff” property to “One per staff”, can I choose which voice on the staff the fermata should attach to? In the screenshot, I have the fermata placed on the third beat of measure 4, but I would like the fermata in the bass stave to appear below the green voice instead of the red.

You can’t choose which note the fermata should appear on; and in this case, isn’t what Dorico suggests correct? If the music is going to be read by a single performer, it’s correct for the fermata to appear at the position at which the music will pause, which according to the presence of the fermata in the upper staff, is on the second half note (minim) beat of the bar.

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If the inner red voice was moved to the upper staff, the bottom fermata position would move to the green voice.
In the chorale manuscript I’m engraving, the fermatas are placed only in relation to the outer voices, regardless of where the inner voices are situated.

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Just nudge it in engrave mode.

That’s an interesting convention, @victorphan, and not one I’ve seen before. I’m afraid @Romanos is right and you’ll have to nudge the fermata in Engrave mode to move it to the position you want it to appear. I’ll keep my eyes open to see whether this convention seems to be followed more widely and whether it would be worth going to the effort of supporting it in Dorico directly.

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I’m not sure what he’s done right and I’ve done wrong, but this is how I would like a piano part in a score I’m writing to appear, but (forgive my upcoming frustration, but I don’t like spending 20-30 minutes on something that should literally take less than 5 seconds when I have deadlines and much bigger problems to solve) but infuriatingly, Dorico has taken it upon itself to put fermatas in ALL PARTS, VOICES AND NOTES ON EVERY SINGLE VOICE IN THE ENTIRE MEASURE. My attempts to delete the extraneous fermatas have all been in vain, even in engrave mode. My case is almost identical to this one, but I had to add an additional four voices since there are sustained notes played by the other hands of the piano. The way Dorico prints the music here is objectively wrong. Any musician this goes in front of will wrongly assume that all of the notes have fermatas and I want them all to be held, but I want the fermata ONLY OVER THE LAST 2 BEATS. Can you explain how to fix this please? I’m not sure why in my case this is happening when in the example in this thread it looks like Dorico easily did the fermatas. Is it because of a newer version, or the extra voices? Or did I miss a step?

Hang on- that’s the wrong screenshot- let me try to find the correct one

You can set a max limit on how many fermatas per staff you want to allow (see screenshot above). If you reduce this number, Dorico will only put fermatas on the last note - just as you want.

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I think the solution here is the same as the one discussed above. Select the fermata, open the Properties panel, and set Max fermatas per staff to “One per staff”.

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Ahh… I see. That was unclear to me. I was able to nudge the other fermata in engrave mode now. Thank you!

Thank you! It still doesn’t tell me how I’m going to fix this if I need it in playback, but… I suppose I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. The measure now at least looks beautiful! Thank you again!

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I’m not sure what you mean. This will play back with the last two beats sustained. Did you want something different?

In any case, Dorico is extremely flexible for playback, since you can decorrelate the notation from the durations played by the playback engine (using the waveform button in the key editor, you can lengthen notes at will without changing the notation).