Finale fugee trying to navigate Dorico

Hello all. Currently using Dorico 5. Doing fairly well with the learning curve, but this is one thing I need to solve. I can’t get chord symbols to display how I want. I have a font set as a default that works, but suffixes and alterations are always the default Bravura, which I think is an ugly font and I want to change it.

Specifically, if I input something like Bb- (and I have set up minor chords to use “-” ( instead of min, mi, whatever), the “B” is the correct font, but flat and the “-” are always the default Bravura. If I go to library/chord symbols to edit the font it always reverts to Bravura.

Welcome to the forum!

Have you tried changing the Chord Symbols Music Text Font in Library > Font Styles?

Tried that out but every font I tried won’t display at all. Specifically, I want to use a handwritten style font like Maestro or Finale Jazz.

Hmm. I can tell you that Petaluma works, and it’s a handwritten style. But some fonts that I would think should work, like Sebastian Text, don’t work.

I know that some of this has to do with having the right characters in the right slots, but there must be more to it.

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I beg your pardon, but Maestro isn’t a handwritten font in Finale, but an engraver font (like the one named such).

Other point :
the Finale fonts you want to use are they SMuLF format (.otf), or old format (.suit) ?

I believe that all of the Finale fonts that start with the word “Finale” are SMuFL-compliant. (“Finale Maestro” vs. the non-SMuFL “Maestro”). See this and this.

(Note that the file extension only indicates the font file format, not whether the font is SMuFL-compliant – although I also think it’s true that the SMufL versions were the first ones that MakeMusic released as .otf.)

Yes Aaron, I know perfectly this point : Finale 27 comes with two sets of fonts : the SMuLF ones, alongside the “ancient” too.
The SMuLF are prefixed “Finale…xxxx”, the ancient have their names no changed (Maestro, Engraver, Tamburo, etc.). Well.
These fonts are necessary if you send, for example, a file to a person who has not a recent version of Finale, because old versions of Finale can’t read SMuLF fonts. So, that is why many of the templates supplied with Finale 27 still use these old fonts.
Moreover, if our friend has a previous version of Finale, such Finale 2012 or 2014, he can’t have the SMuLF fonts because, at that time, these Fonts were not provided.
He did not specify anything on this point, merely writing imprecisely ‘Maestro’.

Reason why, meanwhile, I have added : « I know perfectly this point… » :wink:

The SMuFL Finale fonts can be downloaded from the first link I shared above, for anyone who doesn’t have Finale 27. But per benwiggy’s post at the second link, the SMuFL Finale Finale fonts with “Text” in the name don’t have the same character sets as a font like Bravura Text and therefore can’t be used as a “music text font” in Dorico.

Aha! You may have given me the reason and it may lead to a solution. I was using Finale 26, never got around to updating to 27 when they introduced SMuFL. It may be that none-SMuFL fonts don’t play fair with Dorico 5?

And beg your pardon for calling Maestro a handwritten font. You are correct.

This is true – but please see the rest of what I said. The Finale SMuFL “Text” fonts generally won’t work as “music text fonts” in Dorico either.

Yes Aaron, but once more time, these fonts don’t works in old versions of Finale.
I struggled with this while trying to exchange files with my wife, who uses Finale 2012 (and I was using Finale 27).
We managed to find a solution: my files had to be made from the old fonts (then, I exported files in 2012 format).
A file with SMuLF fonts exported in 2012 format give an horrific result (even if SMuLF fonts package was installed in the computer of my wife : Finale 2012 can’t read them, point, to the line).

Right, but the OP only wants to use the fonts for chord symbols in Dorico. The current issue has nothing to do with Finale.

Indeed, my Dear Aaron.
I only give some informations about the « micro-world » of Finale that may be Doricians don’t know very well.
For the subject of this thread, yes, downloading the Finale SMuLF fonts, according to the process indicated by Ben in the post you linked, will resolve his problem : he will be able to use Finale fonts directly in Dorico Pro 5 thanks to that pack. :wink:

Thank you everyone for your input. This is a great forum for me, with ready answers to problems I encounter. I see that I probably have rethink my choice for music fonts from what I was accustomed to in Finale. Used to use Finale Jazz for lead sheets, maybe Maestro for orchestral scores, sometimes Engraver. I think it’s all in the dumpster now with this evolution.

Yes and no. Here are the fonts that come with Dorico:

As you can see, a few of these are the same as the fonts that come with Finale, and there’s no problem using any one as the default music font in a Dorico project.

But your initial question had to do with music text fonts, not music fonts – that is, fonts with some music characters that are used in a text context, like chord suffixes. Not all of the included music fonts have an matched music text font. I could be wrong, but I think the only included music text fonts are Bravura Text and Petaluma Text; Bravura Text has an engraved look and Petaluma Text has a handwritten look.