Hello, is there a way to tell Dorico not to respond to a USB foot pedal I’m using in conjunction with other software that is running simultaneously? I don’t think there is any MIDI data coming from the pedal; it’s just a 3 button USB foot pedal that I am using to “fast forward, play & rewind” in another program. But in Dorico Write Mode while using the Input Caret, if I press a button on the foot switch, it takes me out of the Input Caret, which I don’t want it to do. I really just want it to ignore the foot pedal altogether. I posted this question 20 days ago with no response so thought I would reframe the question and hopefully receive an answer. Thank you.
The Pedal must be sending something – it’ll either be MIDI or computer keyboard keys, such as Enter, Left, Right.
Is the pedal listed as an input device in Dorico’s Preferences > Play? If so, you can uncheck it.
If it’s sending keyboard keys, then you can’t do much about that without disconnecting it.
I use my foot pedal with Transcribe in the background and Dorico input active all the time without any problem. Whatever is causing an issue, I’m guessing isn’t a default behavior. In Preferences / Key Commands did you program any MIDI Key Commands? At least for me the pedals register as CC67, CC66 and CC64 from left to right. If you have anything mapped to those CC values, then that’s where Dorico is getting that behavior from.
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Thanks to you both for the replies and suggestions. To answer you questions: 1) Under Preferences>Play>MIDI Input Devices, the only item there (and checked) is my MIDI interface (iRig MIDI 2). (Incidentally, under Recording, Import CC64 as pedal lines and Snap pedal lines to previous beat are both checked but I don’t know that this is the issue ?). 2) Key Commands is empty so MIDI Key Commands were not programmed.
Also, I too used Transcribe (that’s the other program to which I was referring.) But I closed that down so just Dorico is running and the Foot Pedal is still taking me out of Input mode. The Foot Pedal in question is a VEC Infinity 3, and relatively new. It does not interact with Finale. I’m really stumped about this and it’s obviously affecting my workflow in a negative way.
ALSO, I just discovered that it will “toggle” me in out of input mode by pressing any foot pedal button.
From a quick Google of the model, the pedal sends CTRL-F9, SHIFT-F9, and CTRL-SHIFT F9 by default. None of those disengage Note Entry for me.
You can configure the keys that the pedal sends. So what keys are yours sending?
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It appears that it is toggling the Shift N (Note Input) (Mac.) But it’s random. It doesn’t do it consistently. I can tap a button once and nothing happens, then a few rapid taps and if I have a note highlighted in Write mode it will open up the Caret. Then maybe one tap will take me out of it. But it seems that a note or notes have to be highlighted for a button to trigger the Caret.
What keys are the pedal configured to send?
There was no configuration on my part. It was an “out of the box” plug and play pedal. No software that came with it. I only want to use it for Transcribe and configured the buttons within the Transcribe app to do what I wanted it to do.
FredGUunn, just out of curiosity, what pedal are you using with Transcribe? You say yours doesn’t interfere with Dorico. If I can’t get this resolved, I may need to get a different pedal.
Fred, would you mind telling me what Foot Pedal you are using? Thanks so much.
I’m using the Nord pedals that came with my Nord Piano 4. Try opening your user keycommands_en.json file (if using English) and see if there are any entries for CC67, CC66, or CC64. If there are, try removing that line of code. (Make a backup first.) The file will be located at Users/yournamehere/Library/Application Support/Steinberg/Dorico 5/keycommands_en.json on a Mac.
Have you programmed any other MIDI devices to work with Dorico? It’s possible another programmed device could be using those CCs too.
I have a Kurzweil K2600 connected to a MIDI iRig interface. That is the only configuration I have.
As a follow up to this post, and how I solved it, I bought a Elegato/Streamdeck foot pedal and ditched the VEC pedal. Because you can specifically tell the Streamdeck foot pedal which app. you want it to pay attention to (e.g. Transcribe!), this completely took care of the problem. It does not trigger Dorico commands like the VEC pedal did.. While I didn’t want to buy another pedal and perhaps the problem could have been solved a different (cheaper?) way, sometimes you go with the option that provides the least amount of hassle. In my case, this was it. Thanks for the attempts to help.
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Shoulda stopped here first, but the Amazon return was easy enough. Looking forward to the Streamdeck pedal !
How do you do that? I’m looking at Streamdeck now, adding shortcuts to the pedals… Transcribe has setups preconfigured for specific uses, and it’s easy enough to get the pedal to operate Transcribe using one of their setups - but I can’t seem to get it to run in the background when Dorico is in front. If I send Transcribe-configured shortcuts from the pedal, they leak through to Dorico.
If you’re available to walk me through setup for this (via Zoom) it’ll be a paid tut.
Hi Jonburr - You need to first make sure Transcribe does NOT “respond to pedals” in the Foot Pedal Shortcuts settings. Choose “Never.” (Ignore the button settings in my pic below, those were when I was using the old VEC pedal). Just choose “never” in the upper left corner.
Next, go to Stream Deck and select the Stream Deck Pedal Profile:
Here’s what mine looks like: For the Default Profile, make sure you choose the Application Transcribe!
I also have the Stream Deck XL which I use for Dorico exclusively. I purchased the Dorico configuration from Notation Express. If you also have an XL too, I highly recommend the package from Notation Express but it’s not pertinent to your problem.
With this configuration, I have had absolutely no problems with interference between Dorico and Transcribe! I think the key to your problem, as it was mine, is to turn off the pedal in Transcribe and have the Stream Deck app control Transcribe.
Hope that helps.
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How’d you set up your pedal commands in Streamdeck?
Did you create custom commands in Transcribe first?
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when I use the existing commands in Transcribe - like “z” for example (play while pressed), in Dorico it is interpreted as “zoom in” and it doesn’t play Transcribe in the background. .. the other preset commands I’d want to use would be back up to section (⌘[ in Transcribe, by default) and scroll rewind (hold r). I suspect I need to create special commands first? And not use the Transcribe setup for pedal-as-keyboard?
Right now the pedal is working Transcribe as intended, the commands aren’t reacting in Dorico - but, they don’t work to operate Transcribe in the background, despite my having set the Transcribe prefs to run in the background…It’s like Dorico is blocking it when it’s in front.
Once the Foot Pedals in Transcribe (File>Foot Pedals>Never) have been turned off, then here’s my set up.
I have F Keys set up in Transcribe for each of the three functions I want to control with the footswitch. See below. Using F2 (rewind) F3 (play) and F4 (FF).
In the Stream Deck Pedal Profile I have assigned Hotkeys for each of those F Keys. So Rewind (Left Pedal) is triggering F2 which, since it’s assigned to Transcribe, is triggering F2 in Transcribe. Same for F3 & F4. Here’s how the Pedal Profile looks with the hotkey F3:
Just replicate this for the other two keys.
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My setup is very similar - it works fine with the pedal in Streamdeck, but… doesn’t work if Dorico is in front. Is there a way to make sure the pedal is outputting global signals, maybe?
Ah wait - I see you have global in front of your F keys in Transcribe! That must be it…
YES! That’s it. Got to create Global shortcuts in Transcribe, then they pass through Dorico!
All set now.
Glad you got it to work.
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