Force horizontal cross-staff beams

Hello together,

I am currently encountering the following hurdle when using Dorico:
I would like to have horizontal beams for motifs with repeated notes.

The result with the setting “allow slant” (Engraving Options → Beams → Repeated Notes and Patterns) is as expected:


However, when changing to “force horizontal”, only the beams that are not cross-staffed are adjusted.


Since I have a lot of similar motifs in this one particular piece, I would like to have an automation instead of adjusting each beam manually. Am I missing any other options or settings?

I have not yet found similar topics with a solution to the problem in this forum.

Thanks and regards.

Welcome to the forum! It appears that these options do not apply to beamed groups with only some cross-staff notes, which doesn’t surprise me. I suppose the best you can do for this kind of thing (beats 3–4 of your example) is adjust one beam in engrave mode and then duplicate the figure.

I’ve not tried it, so apologies if I am mistaken, but I believe the Beam direction property should still apply in these situations, which should make it reasonably quick to produce a horizontal beam.

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Confirmed! Thanks, Daniel.

Thanks for your quick feedback on this, which is appreciated.

I should have been more specific in my question.

It’s apparently possible to adjust this manually with the beam direction settings. But in my case, I would come up with about 400 groups of 4 semiquavers that conceptually need to be written cross-staffed. Of these, about ⅓ happen to have repeated notes and/or patterns (randomly). Of course, I can search for them separately and correct the behavior—which is hard to do semi-automatically, since I don’t see a filtering method here, right?

Based on the previous answers, the question would rather be why the above settings do not apply to cross-staffed notes. Is this by design? Is it an error? Is it because there are special notation rules for this particular case? …

Thanks and regards.

I’m running into this today. Below is what I’m trying to recreate… and I’m totally blanking on whether or not this has been addressed now. I’ve checked everywhere in engraving & notation options that I can think of, but I’m not finding a setting… There’s no way I’m spending time doing this by hand since it’s not for publication.

Desired result:

Current result:

For whatever reason, the slanted beams just appear as extra clutter to my eye. The original (admittedly, much more generously spaced) just appears cleaner to the eye. In my case, I’m forcing the layout to be more dense to minimize page turns (I can get this from 7 pages down to 3!), but the horizontal beams would be welcome.

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As Daniel notes above, you can select all of those notes and set Beam Direction to Flat in the Properties panel. That might be a hassle if you had to hunt and peck to find all the cross staff notes, but it looks like it would be pretty simple in your case.

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Thank you. I hadn’t read that post closely enough for it to register properly, and I wanted to double check there wasn’t an automatic setting for this that had been implemented in the meantime.

I appreciate it.

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