Forward repeat

Dorico
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They say in order to enter a forward repeat, you type in a vertical line followed by a colon. Well Windows keyboards do NOT have a vertical line.

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It is also known as the “pipe” symbol. It is usually on the backslash ( \ ) key, and is obtained by pressing shift+\

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The “pope” key is shift+backslash I think?

Oops :latin_cross:

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The pipe character was the main reason I bought a Stream Deck… On a German keyboard layout it’s horrific… :wink:

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Or type start into the shift-b popover… Then you don’t need the pipe…

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I type Alt(Option)+7 to get the pipe symbol - that’s on a mac.

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Unfortunately, life is too short for this stuff…

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Benji, if you are using Windows, it would be:

To type |, press AltGr + <

ps. this is for German keyboard layouts..

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Thx man, I know! :hugs: But:

A double repeat (forward/backward) would be:

Shift : AltGr | Shift :

With Stream Deck, it’s a single button…

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Or with the Barline Popover you could type endstart - to avoid the | pipe symbol

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Hmm, and use 10 keystrokes instead of 6? :thinking: :wink:

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Your response to k_b took more than ten keystrokes.

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Yes, thats the time we need to contemplate when inputting notes in a speedily manner… A double repeat bar-line seems like the perfect place to take a breath :slight_smile:

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I’m starting to believe that, out of the hundreds of apps I’ve learned over the past 3 decades, Dorico is by far the most convoluted, as witnessed by the above conversation. In Finale, all this stuff is simply obvious. That said, I am eternally grateful for all of you on this forum who have so generously shared your wisdom with this neophyte.

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I just found it over on the far right column: Under “BARS AND BAR LINES,” one finds pictures of both forward and backward repeat bar lines. Can’t fathom why I did not see that last night. I just seem to be getting overwhelmed with the complexity of this program.

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“a picture is worth a thousand words”

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That irony wasn’t completely lost on me, trust me. But, right now I’m not working… :wink:

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Yes. Power users seem to advocate using the popovers exclusively, while it is perfectly viable to just point and click stuff into the score…

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Craig, always remember that Dorico’s philosophy is “General first, individual last.” Meaning, the best way of working is to set as many defaults and standards as possible through the various “options” dialogues (Engrave, Notation and Layout) and only override things very sparingly and in cases not covered by the defaults.
For example, dragging a frame of any kind in Engrave Mode in the score itself instantly creates an Override, which is Dorico’s way of saying “Ah, here the user wants his thing to happen and me to stay hands-off!”, resulting in much of the functionality to just stop working… :neutral_face:
By changing things around in the Page Template, none of that happens, and Dorico continues to be helpful. It has been my opinion for a long time now, that there should be a mechanism to “Update Page Template with current changes”, which would alleviate Dorico’s arguable overreach quite a bit…
As soon as you have a Project Template with everything you normally want to see, it starts to become pretty magical…
Plus, get a Stream Deck for the hard to remember key commands and most used score items.
And have no fear of using mouse operations like dragging notes and the ever-useful “Alt-Click to copy” trick.

Have fun!
B.

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Stream Deck? Is this what you’re talking about:

I can’t imagine how that relates to Dorico. It looks like a video manipulator.