Full Screen needing two tries to close

Unless I’m mistaken, I’ve customised my key command for Full Screen view to Meta+Cmd+F.

I’m coming across a problem where if I select an item and navigate to a layout, that it takes two tries using this key command to leave Full Screen view.

When using Fn+F to enter/leave Full Screen, behaviour is as expected and so I’m assuming it’s something to do with my key command. But, oddly, the unexpected behaviour only happens in one of the parts.

In any case, attached is a file, as well as the steps to reproduce.

  • With the score visible, I use Meta+Cmd+F to enter Full Screen
  • I click in the Tuba staff and press W to go to the part
  • I press Meta+Cmd+F to leave Full Screen.

Nothing happens and I need to press the key command again.

Full Screen Issue.dorico (1.3 MB)
Dorico Diagnostics.zip (2.7 MB)

  1. You haven’t customised it - that’s a standard mac key command for full screen.
  2. Your file with your steps seem to work fine here, in Dorico 5.1.70, on a new MBP running Sequoia.

Thanks for your efforts, Leo.

Isn’t the key command for Full Screen in macOS Ctrl-Cmd-F?
If I press the Fn (Globe) key + Cmd + F, nothing happens.

Congratulations on the new Mac! :wink:

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What is META? I may be very green, but can’t figure out:)

No. Ctrl is the equivalent of Cmd on a PC.

@kaposi.g Meta is the key that says “Control” on a Mac.

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So what is the full combination on Windows?

I would imagine it would be listed on the View menu; at least, that’s where it is on Mac. The key command, if there is one, will be listed here (seemingly on my Mac it’s listed twice!:

It’s not a Dorico key command, though, it’s one provided by the operating system. It might be F11? Either way, it’s not in the Dorico factory key commands file at all, so it won’t match nicely to the Mac stuff that’s described further up this thread.

Not that I know how, but would it be worthwhile trying to do a screen grab-thingy of this behaviour?

Like this?

(Sorry, I realise you meant for you to be able to demonstrate. I’m using an old version of ScreenFlow I bought, years ago, to do a tutorial series about, er, Dorico! QuickTime Player can probably do it though.)

Perhaps I’m unable to follow you, Daniel: are you on Windows or on Mac?
As Leo showed, the shortcut for Full Screen on Mac is Ctrl (⌃) - Command (⌘) - F, nothing that involves a “Meta” key. Honestly, this is the first time I hear of a Meta key on a Mac keyboard.
I have both an old keyboard from 2016-ish which has the “fn” key under the F13 key, and a new MacBook Pro (2023) where the “fn” key, paired with a “Globe”, sits at the bottom-left of the keyboard.

I got confused because whatever Meta is, it is not what says Control on a Mac keyboard:

Control is that ^ key! :slight_smile:
The Globe can be used for some specific things, though I am not using them much.

Yes, like that. But I meant would it be worthwhile for me to do it (in case someone would notice a step I was missing). I hope you’re not cranky! (Just saw your edit)

Michele, if you have cause to look at the keycommands JSON on a Mac, you will find that anywhere that you’ve specified the Mac “Ctrl” key will show in the JSON as “Meta” (to distinguish it from “Ctrl”, which is used to mean Ctrl on Windows but Cmd on Mac).

This makes it possible for a single keycommands file to work on both Windows and Mac.

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Cristal-clear, Leo, thank you!
I had never looked at the key commands inside of the JSON!
My apologies for the convoluted confusion!

Me again…

I noticed in your screengrab that you didn’t follow one step I described: to enter Full Screen before pressing W.

Would you mind trying it out one more time for me?

Full Screen Issue v2.dorico (1.6 MB)

It seems to be pretty reliable for me.

Sorry again, Leo. It’s the Tuba staff.

Took me a few seconds, but yes, there is something weird going on. Last few seconds…

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Full screen on Win : fn+F11