Groove agent dum loop regions trigger too early

[LeoW]

I can’t figure out what the problem is.

I have a project with a fixed tempo and want to add a drum loop from Groove Agent to a slash region. I input the correct midi trigger note and the loop plays back, but it is always slightly before the beat and the first note of the loop gets “cut” away. Hence it is out of sync with the rest of the playback (which is all driven by the new Iconica sketch).

The buffer size it at 64. I use the latest Dorico version.

[dspreadbury]

Can you please cut down your project to the smallest chunk that still reproduces the problem, and attach it here so we can take a look?

[LeoW]

I stripped the project down to the part with the drum loop. The strange thing is, now the drum loop appears to be “behind” the beat, in the whole project it was in “front”.

Also the fill in the 3rd and 4th bar somehow starts on beat 5 out of 8 in the Groove Agent window and then restarts on beat 1 in the 4th bar, so the crescendo is interrupted.

drum loop too early.dorico (2.9 MB)

[Christian_R]

Hi @LeoW I found that if you deactivate Sync to Beat for all the Patterns Pads (click on every pattern and deactivate this option) Groove Agent plays with the same Beat as the Dorico Project, and sounds in synch.

I see that in your Groove Agent setup the BPM seems to be 135BPM while the Dorico Project is on 126BPM. So there is some inconsistency if you have that option active*. (Sorry I am relative new in Groove agent and don’t know if there is some global adjustments so that the BPM between GA and Dorico will be automatically synchronized…, but with this manual adjustment seems to work).

*I have found a post that is probably related:

Groove Agent (MIDI trigger) doesn't follow Dorico tempos

When I use MIDI triggers in Dorico to play a drum pattern, GA locks onto the tempo of the first measure and will never play the patterns at a different tempo no matter what tempo changes are in the Dorico score. I could not find any combination of GA options that would change that behavior. If I drag the MIDI pattern from GA into the Dorico project, then the notes do play at the Dorico tempo, even though the tempo shown in the GA UI is still the tempo of the first measure. Is there some way t…

…and this (but as I understand GA will not jet synch with Dorico BPM?..):

Groove Agent Pattern Tempo Change

Hi All. I am a newbie to Cubase, Groove Agent and the forum and this is my first post. I’m trying to work out how to change the tempo of the Groove Agent patterns. Apologies if it’s really simple, but I can’t seem to find out how to do it. I’ve read the GA manual and there’s nothing there that I could see. Any help would be appreciated. Many thanks.