Hi folks, just wondering if anyone can help me out. I’m having an issue with the hairpins in Dorico 4 (latest version, but it’s persisted across all versions of Dorico 4 so far). Visually they look fine, but Dorico interprets the end of my hairpin as aligning with the start of the next bar rather than the end of the current bar. Here’s a picture to show what I mean.
The issue here is that if I want to create new bars directly after a hairpin, the hairpin gets extended across all the new bars I insert (as shown below).
Is there any way to change this behaviour? This has been a major issue on a project I’ve been working on – frequently, I’ve made multiple instruments do a diminuendo together, and then I’ve had to insert some bars after said diminuendo, which causes all the new diminuendos (diminuendi?) to be stretched across all the news bars that I’ve inserted. It’s cumbersome having to go back and fix this every time. I don’t recall this ever happening in Dorico 2, 3, or 3.5.
That’s the workaround I’ve been using actually, it’s just annoying to have to do this every single time so I’m wondering if there’s a way to change the hairpin behaviour. Like I said, I don’t recall this being a problem in previous versions.
I agree this sort of thing is a bit fiddly. The same issue happens if you try to add a hairpin to the entirety of a final bar… Dorico adds a bar. I understand why, but it feels wrong.
No change there either. It is logical though. The end of the hairpin is after the barline. The new bars are added at the barline, so everything gets shunted right.
Yes, but then it doesn’t always extend visually to the end of the bar.
Yes, I know I’m asking for contradicting things. Well actually, I’m not asking for anything I guess, just observing that it’s not quite what I’d expect. It’s fine, I’m used to it!
Hey Janus – just redownloaded Dorico 3.5 to test this out, and no, this definitely wasn’t a problem in previous versions. The hairpins do end at the start of the next bar, but adding new bars afterwards doesn’t stretch the hairpin across the new ones. I think it’s safe to say this is a bug with Dorico 4.
Edit: Thought I’d add some GIFs below to better show people what I’m talking about.
Dan, I must admit, I haven’t encountered your issue before with the hairpin creating a new bar after the final one. I went back to my score to test it, and I can’t reproduce it. Are you running the latest version of Dorico?
It would be a relief if the stretching of gradual dynamics when you create new bars at the end of it, introduced in Dorico 4, would be reverted. It costs so much time every time to work around this quirk. Could the behaviour of Dorico <=3.5 as in @VIUSStudios 's screen recording above be restored?
Or could there be made an option to set this in the preferences?
This is a very old topic, but the first one I could find searching…
There is a bug with adding bars interacting with gradual dynamics and lines. When a bar is added in the middle of a line, the line is extended twice as far as the amount of added bars. So if 2 bars are added to where the line is, the line is extended 4 bars. This happens for example with 8va -lines.
With grouped gradual dynamics, each member of the group will multiply the length added. For example, if 4 instruments have grouped gradual dynamics and 2 bars are added during these grouped dynamics (or immediately after), all dynamics will be lengthened by 8 bars. This usually makes a huge mess in the score.
I would think this is a known bug, but just wanted to post it here in case it isn’t. For sure it can’t be the expected behaviour?
