Help! Introduction to Project

I’ve created a mess! My project was ready for fine-tuning when I created four measures to write an intro. I’m not certain how I did this, but I’ve pushed the actual project off base. Instead of an upbeat eight note, I now have that note at the space “3 1/2” and the first count of the next measure moved back to the 4th count in the previous measure. I’ve invested some serious time and there is a deadline. Is there a fix without rewriting everything? Ugh! I’m including a screenshot. The “A” on rise should be at 4.5. “Rise” is the 1st count in measure 5. I hope this makes sense.

This is what it looked like before I inserted measures up front.

Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks, Connie

Select any one of the rests in bar 4. Open the Bars popover with Shift+B. Type +1q and hit Enter.

That will shift everything starting with “Arise” one beat later.

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I would love to take you to lunch or something. Good grief! Thank you so much. :heart_eyes:

This is what it looks like now. I never dreamed I was creating such a mess. How do I delete the rests in measure 4 now? I started to hack and I don’t dare. I guess I should say that the last beat is measure 4 should be the last beat in measure 3.

  • Select the G at the end of bar 3 in the RH
  • Open the Bars popover with Shift+B
  • Type -1 and hit Enter.
  • Select the G in the LH, which is now an eighth too short
  • Type Shift+Alt/Opt+right arrow to make it a dotted half again
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Thank you so much! I hope I’ll be able to help somebody someday. That was so easy, but you have to know. Sifting through the numerous tutorials or manuals is rarely productive. You are a very good person!

Connie

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Thank you so much! I hope I’ll be able to help somebody someday. That was so easy, but you have to know. Sifting through the numerous tutorials or manuals is rarely productive. You are a very good person!

Connie

I replied too quickly. I’m still grateful for your help. It worked perfectly with earlier version so I didn’t dig myself deeper into trouble. I tried the exact same thing with the latest version, and this is what I created. I’m stunned. I’ve done it a few times to be sure I hadn’t done something different.

Can you upload a version of your project that has all of the notes, even if they’re in the wrong place?

This is the most recent version with the notes shifted after I did the same thing with an older version that worked beautifully. A head scratcher. I can send you the one that worked. I could go back to that version, but I’d be redoing a lot of work. Thanks!

Arise and Shine Forth 2025_11_03 1411_R3.pdf (534.2 KB)

What I’m asking for is really your Dorico project file, not a PDF. And If you’d like help fixing the project, then the project needs to have all of the notes, including the intro – it looks like this PDF is missing the intro.

But also, since double-posting on this forum can be confusing, please continue the discussion over on your other post. Did the suggestions there help?

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I apologize about the “double posting”. After I had checked the “solution”, it looked like it wouldn’t let me continue. The “pdf’s” were indeed a mistake. I was so anxious to move on that I didn’t see I was sending the wrong format. The “R3” version is the most current. However, it has the content shifted. “R4” is an older version that worked beautifully with your suggestions. Here goes:

Arise and Shine Forth_2025_11_04_1150_R3.dorico (619.9 KB)

Arise and Shine Forth_2025_11_04_1150_R4.dorico (928.1 KB)

Is this what you want?

Here’s what I did:

  • Drag select the last 8th in bar 3, all staves
  • Turn on Insert mode
  • Shift+Alt/Opt+right arrow to lengthen the note by an 8th
  • Turn off Insert mode
  • Select something on the last 8th of bar 3
  • Shift+B, +1e, Enter
  • Select G in LH piano, bar 3, Shift+Alt/Opt+right arrow
  • Add back in the last 8th in piano RH and voice bar 3
  • Add back in the missing “Arise”

I saved this in v6, but you should be able to open it in v5 with no issues.

Arise and Shine Forth_2025_11_04_1150_R3 edited.dorico (1.4 MB)

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Bless you, my friend! I resisted using your version and correcting my work. It wasn’t one-and-done, but I’m back to where I messed up. I have one more question though. I’m happy to research this, but I’m not certain what the letters are about when you do “Shift+B, i.e. +1e, and +1g. I spent time last night researching in the Steinberg manual. I didn’t get an explanation before my window of time was gone. Here’s one example in the manual:

This isn’t the best example. It’s the “e” on the fix you mentioned. What is the “e”?

Shift+B opens the bars popover.

One of the things this popover can do is add or remove bars, or fractions of bars. +1q says to insert one quarter note before the selected note (and push everything else later); +1e says to insert one eighth note.

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Ah! Thanks for the explanation. I read this section last night and earlier today. They never addressed the letters. All is well! Thanks for your help.

Connie

I found all the letters spelled out! I’ll print it for future reference. I’m guessing these letters are useful in other areas as well.

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Indeed they are. Especially if you want to specify 3:2q or 5:4x tuplets!

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You might like the popover reference PDF. Here’s the version for Dorico 5.1:

And Dorico 6.1:

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