Horizontal scrolling

Is there a shortcut key to scroll the project window back and forth horizontally? I’ve looked everywhere and can’t find anything about this. I set my Logitech mouse up to do this with the wheel but it only lasted a minute or two until Cubase puked all over the place!

There are times I think the engineers who designed this interface are totally disconnected from reality :angry:!!

If you shift+scroll it moves horizontally.

Thanks, Raino. I’ll give that a try.

It’s so sad that basic functions like these take so long to find. I couldn’t find it in the documentation or search functions. It’s these little things that completely DESTROY creativity. It’s not like I’m trying to figure out how to do parametric equalization or side chain effects.

It’s so sad that basic functions like these take so long to find.

That’s where videos such as this (which mentions horizontal scrolling) beat the manual (IM0):

Thanks, ieaston. I received a survey from Steinberg about 10 months ago asking me what I thought of their documentation. I said the formats and basic information were pretty good, however there were two major flaws:

  • Their documentation is only written to an expert audience. That is, Steinberg assumes no customer is a rookie or intermediate user.


  • Information is not retrievable. As per the subject of my post, the most basic operations are difficult to find. Even when information is well written, it is totally useless when users can’t find it!

I told them I was a technical writer and technical writing instructor, and that their documentation needs a lot of help. In true Steinberg fashion, I never heard back.

In a previous life I had to on occasion hire (rent actually) tech writers and approve their results. I think the current docs are decent reference manuals with all the limitations that implies. They really need some sort of “how to” guide to fill the gaps. While videos can be great, one advantage of a manual is they are easy to skim through - videos not so much.

They really need some sort of “how to” guide to fill the gaps.

Quite agree. Being a teacher, we’re constantly reminded of different learning styles. I quite like reading technical manuals, but can see the benefit of videos for those who like to be walked through.

Just as an experiment, I searched “horizontal scrolling” in the manual, finding 55 documents, none of which seemed remotely relevant. The closest showed how to zoom using the on-screen slider: much fiddlier than using a mouse! 10 seconds in YouTube, I found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUzsLsnWZh0

Excellent points, guys. Besides teaching technical writing at a college in Toronto, I also do some freelancing. A lot of my clients’ documentation is written by the engineers and secretaries, if you can believe that. That’s like having your large animal veterinarian perform a hip replacement on you instead of your orthopedic surgeon. Both doctors are highly skilled and well trained but your orthopedic surgeon specializes in human hips. He or she is your best bet.

I’d wager, the Cubase manuals were compiled by someone who read over the engineering notes and just summarized them. Summarizing subject matter expert notes is only a starting point toward usable documentation. Just like my doctors analogy, it takes a specialist to get it 100% right.

My Yamaha Genos comes with two manuals: a User Manual and a Reference Manual. The User Manual provides all the basic functions. It is well-geared toward the user who wants to open the box, set up their Genos, and play it for enjoyment in their living room. The Reference Manual provides in depth information for those who wish to explore the advanced functions.

Steinberg needs to write a User Guide for the novice and intermediate audiences and while they’re at it, fix the Reference Manual! It’s been proven that well written user documents leads to increased sales.

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Thanks for the video links :slight_smile:!

Not only believe it, seen it.

One fairly quick & easy thing they could do to improve the manual is to expand what is listed in the index. It could probably be twice as big or more.

Good point, Roger. In hardcopy media and in the perfect world, the Table of Contents (Contents) is written from the engineer’s or developer’s point of view. The Index is written from the user’s point of view. Therefore, the Index had better cover every possible scenario the user can think of.

Here we are two years later and I have a similar question. Thank you for the shift-scroll short cut to horizontally navigate the project window: I will use it. My issue is the speed of navigation if I use the little tab at the bottom of the screen.

I have been using Cubase for over 12 years but this has been irritating me for only the last few months, causing me to think that there is a control somewhere to adjust the horizontal speed and I touched it by mistake (I don’t think it is a mouse issue).

So…how to I slow down that horizontal slider at the bottom of the screen and avoid advancing 100 bars when I move the cursor by a quarter of an inch?

Is it nomenclature you have an issue with? I just tried the search function, and yes, nothing available under horizontal scrolling. I checked horizontal and scrolling…nothing. I agree, this is a void and should be made more accessible.

I don’t think Steinberg publishes a “basics” book. If they did, then you have to decide which are the basics and which are not. The 1300 page pdf manual is pretty comprehensive. Keep in mind, Cubase is the most feature-rich DAW available.

If you can’t find stuff using the search function in the pdf, then I would try one of these.

Searchable database of Cubase video tutorials on YouTube (valid up to 7-13-21)
https://cubaseindex.com/

There are some 3rd party tutorials but they are paid, and I’ll never go that route. Others seem to like them.

Fwiw, I think I learned about sft+scroll through a forum. :laughing:

Thanks for the thoughts, Greg. It’s been a while since this topic was viewed. In the meantime and since Covid has backed off, I’ve spent most of my time on stage vs. Cubase.

In retrospect, Cubase is not for the faint of heart. The basic versions are excellent but I ventured into the deep end by upgrading from Artist to Cubase 10.5. It’s understandable that Steinberg has no interest in the beginner to intermediate audience with their upper level product. Hence, their documentation assumes a higher level of expertise. Can’t fault them for that :smiley:!

To be honest, the biggest obstacle I faced was MIDI integration of my Genos arranger keyboard into Cubase. Since Day 1, Yamaha has touted their arrangers as perfect candidates for DAW recording. Horse pucks! Trying to record an arranger into Cubase has been and always will be full of trap doors.

My Genos has a MIDI and Audio recorder on board. Other than convenience, I think there was a good reason they put those there. On the other hand, I found that the VST voices were as good, if not better than the Genos voices, so I used them instead. Recording VST voices is pretty straight forward. I gave up on recording the Genos into Cubase.

Yamaha could create an interface that configures the Genos and Cubase for instant recording. They did that after the Motif series was out for about one year because users were fed up with having to jump through tons of circus hoops trying to get Cubase to talk to the Motif. Yamaha and Steinberg won’t do the same for the Genos. Reason: There’s no money in it.

I don’t know how to eventually set the horizontal scrolling speed, but instead of the zoom slider, I would use the Zoom presets menu : it has the essential quick zoom adjustments needed, I think, and is much more practical, as its use avoids any slider handling mistake.

But actually, for any horizontal scrolling tasks, I use the Overview feature, even if it takes added vertical place :

C12_Overview

Much more efficient than everything at the bottom right of the screen, IMO, and no key/shortcut combination needed…

Hello and thank you for your advice. I know about the overview window and I tried using it. I feel like I am merely transposing my problem. For instance, I have a song at 145 BPM and 145 bars long. My overview is about half an inch on my screen and I cannot increase its length (zoom).

I also appreciate the screen shot you included. I don’t see the gear icons on my screen but I will look into it.

On a personal note, I also know there are many short cuts out there but I like the basics of using the Graphic User Interface. Instead of inventing all kinds of work-arounds, I wish Steinberg would simply add an horizontal speed control on that particular slider

You can redimension the horizontal area displayed, by dragging the border of the rectangle showing it (when the mouse cursor has a two opposite arrows shape). You can also move the area displayed, also by dragging when the mouse cursor has a hand shape.

This is what I like, using the Overview tool : I can both horizontally zoom and browse the project I am working on. This, in an intuitive way, IMO.

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Hi. I see what you mean…
I can control the zoom in the main project window but I see that the actual overview icon of my project (145 bars) is static and cannot change size. I can also use the compass cursor in the bars window to move around the project.

Using both actions works for me too. Thanks a lot for your help!

Robert

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Just so we are on the same page: This is the overview (red marks). It always spans the entire width of the Project window.

Marked with orange lines is the part that is visible right now in the project view below it.
You can move the mouse to any of these edges to change the zoom setting (mouse cursor will be a double sided arrow). You can move to in between the markers to move the visibility box around (mouse cursor will be a hand). You can click in the upper half of the overview area to draw in a new visibility box (mouse cursor will be a pencil).

The compass cursor appears in the ruler.

Well, I think we are but I see you are using version 12. I am still on 8.5. Perhaps this added flexibility came in later versions. As it is, the double arrow in the overview only defines what I see in the project window (zoom factor), and the hand allows me to navigate within that project window. I cannot change the size of the project in the overview .

I am not a professional user and this inconvenience is not enough to justify a costly upgrade.

Thanks for you help!

Problem solved! It had to do with the project set up!
In project set up, I had to specify the project length in seconds. It was set at over two hours! I redefined the project length at 3 minutes and 10 seconds.

Now the overview window takes up the entire line AND my horizontal cursor at the bottoms of the project window works at a decent speed.
Thanks for your help in this matter!

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