How to activate input midi midi-start midi-stop and midi-spp in cubase 12

How to send midi-start midi-stop and midi-spp from my keyboard to cubase 12 pro?

Hi,

What exactly do you mean by…

What keyboard do you use?

I use an old CME UF6 wich has transport buttons. I discovered that these buttons send standard midi-start, midi-stop and midi-spp (song position pointer) messages. I was able to use them in Cubase 5 but not in further Cubase. I tought this was a driver issue because CME didn’t released driver for windows 10, but the problem is that Cubase 12 doesn’t receive these messages that I discovered using any midi monitor software. I know that newer Cubase refuse Midi clock signals, but I hope there is a way to tell Cubase 12 to don’t filter awat these messages.
Midi-start and midi-stop are used to start and stop reproduction of the song while midi-spp are used to move the cursor backward and forward.
Anyone can help?

Interesting. I believe these MIDI messages are traditionally used to sync two devices.
In Cubase 5, did the UF6 have a proprietary device driver selected in the Device Setup panel?
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Hi,

CME UF keyboards were plug and play, of I remember correctly.

You can try to use Generic Remote Device or the MIDI Remote and try to use the Learn feature if one of these can recognize the messages. If yes, you can use them. If not, I would recommend to program the buttons to send any common MIDI CC.

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Yes, they are used to play/stop other midi instruments, arpeggiator, sequencers and recorders. CME released drivers only for win XP and win 7. I have the UF6 limited edition wich has an asio soundcard built-in. It’s a Terratec Phase 24.
UF5
This is UF5 limited edition, mine is UF6 with 61 keys

Since these MIDI messages are somewhat “special case” messages, I would be surprised if the Legacy Generic Remote would pick them up, but certainly worth a try.
I think the MIDI Remote API should be able to capture them but I don’t know for sure and I have nothing to test with.

Pinging MIDI Remote API wizard @mchantzi

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These messages are still utilized today to sync with others midi devices, but they are completely filtered away by Cubase as I can’t see them in the Cubase midi monitor (the 2 small bars beside audio in-out small meters on the lower left of the screen). As I know these messages are sent to all 16 channels while midi-clock is sent on a different special channel. So why Cubase filters these out? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:
When I was using Cubase 5 I had to filter out manually to avoid to rec the midi-stop message! Old good times! :sweat_smile:

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Hi,

Aren’t they SeysEx messages in fact? If yes, you can disable the SysEx filter in the Preferences > MIDI > MIDI Filter. In that case neither Generic Remote Device nor MIDI Remote can handle them.

Unfortunately not. SysEx starts with 0xF0, SPP is 0xF2, Midi Start is 0xFA, Midi Stop is 0xFC.

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:rofl:

Since your device is MMC ready, I think it is worth a try to open Transport->Project Synchronization Setup and enable the settings in the “Machine Control” tab, by choosing the midi ports of your controller.

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interesting! which version of Cubase is this?

This option exists in Cubase Pro. Not sure about lighter versions.

What about the drivers for the CME UF6. I just bought one and i have no drivers. Can somebody help me?

Thanks.

Hi there Juan and welcome to the forums.

The CME UF keyboards were discontinued a looooong time ago. The company never developed any drivers for a 64-bit OS.


EDIT:
Here’s a post from a CME tech support from 2016.
According to that post, it is not technically possible to write a driver for a modern platform. Sorry.

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Thanks

if you don’t have built-in soundcard UF400e, you don’t need drivers. buy an USB-MIDI adapter and that’s all. I still use it as my first master keyboard. For the soundcard there is a workaround with phase 24 Terratec drivers but I wouldn’t bet on driver reliability.
A long time ago, CME released a small software I’ve lost on a corrupted HD and I can’t find it anymore. It’s called UF editor or something similar. Does anyone still have it? it’s useful and I want it.