How to assign separate Stereo Out busses when the Control Room is activated?

Hi all,

So, I can’t seem to find an answer about this. I do need sometimes additional Stereo Out channels for one reason or another.

When I go to “connections” and I create a Stereo 2 channel , for example, and I choose my output channels, in this instance ‘Main Out 1’ L and ‘Main Out 2’ for R, the program is deactivating the assigned outputs from the control Room.

Even if I create a ‘Monitor 2’ channel, I get the same issue in than when I assign ‘main 1 & 2’ as my output channels to ‘Monitor 2’, then ‘Main 1 & 2’ outputs are deactivated from ‘Monitor 1’.

How can I go about this?

Cheers!

Hi, you can’t use main out 1+2 for additional outputs as they are already in use by your control room main outs. You should use 3-4, or others. Just not the two your are already using for control room.
Do you need the additional outputs for sending out to some kind of hardware or so?

Hey, thanks for the info…I only use Main 1 + 2 as my output from my card to the amp I use.

Hmmm, that’s a pain,

If you only have two then it’s a hardware limitation. You need an interface with more outputs.

yeah but I can achieve this at the Output Assignment, I can create as many Stereo outs as I like, with the same Main 1 + 2 outs…the CR doesn’t allow this…ah…it is what it is I suppose, cheers buddy.

You can switch off the “exclusive device usage” option. I think it is in the Preferences under VST or Control Room. Or it is somewhere in Audio Connections.

The question remains: what are you trying to achieve? You can send only one output bus to the Control Room - the one marked as Main Mix.

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Hey cheers!

What I want to do is to have a Stereo Out 1 with all my plugins for mastering, and sometimes I want to check exported files with no mastering applied to them, i.e I create a stereo 2 bus (no plugins applied) and stick the exported track on ST 2 for comparison. I can do this easily on Audio Connections → Outputs.

I don’t know why it is such a headache to have the same thing available on the CR…

Hey, that was what needed to be done, cheers! :folded_hands:

For this scenario you would set all your output busses to “not connected” as you are listening through Control Room.
Then either you manually switch the Main Mix assignment in Audio Connections’ ouput tab everytime…
or you define a Cue bus in the Control Room and send the second output bus to that Cue (using Cue Sends). Then you can change between the ouput busses by changing the input of the Control Room main section from Mix to Cue1.

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Cheers!

Unless I’m misunderstanding you, doesn’t Wavelabs Smart Bypass achieve this without any switching? I have used that WL feature for 20 years. However…you need WL… :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

hey, cheers, yeah, I don’t have WL, I don’t do this very often, it’s only when I have some discrepancy and I want to double check things, I don’t really need WL though TBH.

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You can also just bypass the insert effects section in case you just need to compare “with plugins” to “without plugins”.
For two different mastering channels using a CueSend seems to be the better option.

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Hey cheers, it wasn’t what I needed to do.

Nice one, will try this, cheers!!

Just throwing out there as an “fyi” that I think this is also a Cubase limitation and in Nuendo you can have up to eight sources in CR. So 8 output buses (or groups) can be chosen as a source, separately or in combination.

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+1 for the cuesend, is a solid option.

FWIW, there is a plugin from Letimix that’s called GainMatch.
You put one as an insert before your mastering chain, and another after.
It automatically detects which one is where, so you can A/B with/without plugins with a single click on the one after the chain, and it will also be at the same level.

I find it very useful. When mixing, I always have it sitting on a channel deactivated, and quickly grab it when I need to A/B anything.
There’s a 14-day trial, and if you like it, it’s like 19$ or something like that.

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Hey , cheers! :folded_hands: