I have many problems with converting files developed in Finale to Dorico Pro.
I had no this problem so far - I used still both programs depending of score.
But unfortunatelly Finale leaves us now.
Some of those problems result from XML format. But some I can’t solve manually as well. Very possibile I don’t know something.
Often in scores we use ties over the barline. And in repetitions with 1., 2 . (and so on) volta we expect the same tie graphically and in play back. In Finale i have very simple shortcut “ctrl+=” which can create ties backword in repetitiion as well with correct graphical image and well sound play back. Give me some advice please how can I achieve it in Dorico without time-consuming fun with graphical mode.
- There is no “backward tie” switch in Dorico as there is in Finale.
- We are still awaiting proper support for ties into and out of ending bars. This is brought up several times every year, and Daniel has replied about it several times, if you search the forum. In at least one of those he explained some of the complexity of the situation.
- Currently the best method is to use the l.v. tie and position in engrave mode. Sorry!
Thank you Mark for your quick reply.
It’s a pity that there is such a solution yet. Now I will use the method you mentioned. In small scores - for soloists or small scores and not long pieces it’s not a big problem. But in long pieces with complex form it can be hard.
I will wait patiently for this solution in future versions.
You can change the lv ties for all the instruments that have them at a particular place in a single operation.
Simply select all the notes, and adjust their tie offsets in Engrave…
I’m waiting for this too! Many people need it.
Yes of course Janus it’s possible. In one place or two. But
let’s take this e.g.:
it is original Finale notation.
it is notation after conversion by XML or created original with Dorico Pro
this is notation after use of lv tie in Dorico Pro. It is possible to correct in Engrave mood of course.
And now imagine please that you have fiveteen or twenty similar places with different rhythms in different places on ten pages of the score.
It means you need spend half a day with correction of the ties. It’s enough to forget that you should to write a music.
This looks to me like you tried to put a regular tie on the note in the 1st ending (or, perhaps, by selecting both notes). The workaround method is to apply an l.v. tie – the one in Properties – on the note in the 2nd ending, and move that to the left.
Let me know if I am misreading what you did.
I Write mode I marked the last note “e” before/in (separatelly is imposible) first repetition and note “e” in second one (however it is not essential in this case), then I have made a tie with standard Properties or shortcut “T”. Then I shortened this tie with Engrave procedure. It,s rather impossible to make it using standard right-hand tie becouse the next “e” note is placed a fiew bars later in this piece. Very frequently there is the changing of key or Da Capo or another important change in similar places. Is it incorrect?
When we refer to Properties, that is in the lower zone, as opposed to the Notes panel in the left zone. T makes regular ties, to join two or more notes into one. T is a shortcut for the button in the left zone.
What you need for this is a laissez vibrer or l.v. tie. This is a graphic property of a note (not actually a tie), found in the Properties panel in the lower zone:
Select the note in the 2nd ending, turn on this switch, and then you can go into engrave mode and reposition it. This is the best we have so far.
Yes, you are right - it looks well. But play back doesn’t sound properly.
Repeats the sound which should be under the tie. Unless I am mistaken.
And it is still lot of work. Impossible when you have do it dozens ones in a score.
As I quoted 4 days ago in another thread …
I wont playbeck of last note before the repetition (not from first repetition to second) extended to the first note in second ending as in the first one. So I would like to achieve correct notation and play back as well.
Here the “e” note should sound by the same way in both repetitiions, it means dotted crotchet.
Ah, sorry, I should have linked to this post of John’s:
Yes, we would all like that to be possible.
We just have to be patient.
If I am understanding this correctly, The l.v. tie only shows graphically on the staff, and does not sound during playback? I am looking to do this the other way 'round; Last note of the first ending tied back to the beginning of the head. I used the l.v. tie, and I can see the tie trailing off the last note of the first ending. Am I supposed to do something to get the “other end” of the tie to appear at the head? Or, perhaps better put, is the tie trailing off the last note in the first ending enough to inform the player the note should be held going back to the head? Though I have been playing guitar for 50+ years, I am vision impaired, and am not able to read music in real time. So I don’t have the experience from a reading perspective. I can live without the tie working in playback. No big deal for me.
Many thanks,
Lou