The following rhythm in 4/4:
should be (in my opinion) written as such (I notated this in another program):
I can’t figure out how to get that result in the cmmnd+shift+N menu. Help?
Just wondering, as a player I would prefer the upper version. It’s somehow easier to get the rhythm right.
Secondly, what time signature do you have in your Dorico example?
Thirdly, if you select the second note, then hit O and then hit 7 you will get a forced halve note. O (not zero) for fOrced duration. Then while the note is still in forced mode, extend it to the last eight note.
Do this by either using the Write Menu (very far down) or by expanding the note by the grid value, using the keyboard shortcut (I think it is Shift-Alt-right arrow).
enter the notes you want with Force Duration activated - o in Write Mode
Me too.
Jesper
That one comes up for debate often. Certainly your bottom example is often found, but most authors consider it incorrect.
Ted Ross pg 194
Carl Rosenthal pg 24
etc … Your bottom example is common though, and follows the 1-2-1 pattern that is often an exception, so I agree that there should be some mechanism for Dorico to support that without having to use Force Duration.
Me too. 
Nevertheless, if our friend want a minim instead of tied crotchet, the Notation Options will solve the problem of these “half bars way” ; these options, previously bugged, works fine now in Dorico 5.1.70.
so there is no way to get this score-wide?
I find this way much more pleasing graphically, because there is more “weight” on the left. Also I find putting a half note in the middle of a 4/4 bar pretty, always.
Notation options for some reason doesnt solve this in my dorico (latest version, pro). Try it, and if you figure out which box to tick, tell me!
Fair enough, but please also consider the musicians, who have to read this.
Potentially this could cost unnecessary rehearsal time.
Just saying… 
Please, set the Notation Options as explained in this post :
Notation Options and unwanted tied notes
If you have the latest version of Dorico (5.1.7), this works fine now.
For more informations :
Dorico help NotOp
Well that isn’t my example above. In this particular case I might consider other ways BUT the other ways are equally clumsy looking. If they were different notes I wouldn’t hesitate:
Anyways this is a question to which there is no “correct” answer, just personal taste
Like I said I have tried this. If it works for you with the exact notation I indicate above, please let me know how you did it (project wide)
I’m a musician who reads music, and this doesn’t bother me. When I have written this in the past for professional musicians, no one complained. I am not aware that this is anything more than personal taste because both are possible and in music.
Please, check the notations options by setting these two cases, and this works fine here under Dorico 5.1.7 on Mac for the input of the rhythm you have showed in head of this thread…
I don’t know if this is your wish. I am French, and often, I don’t understand very well English (I speak far better German).
Je chuis presque francais au point ou j’en suis du coup ça ne fonctionne pas pour ce que je veux, ces reglages les, je les ai déjà testé. Peut-etre il faut que je fasse une mise a jour, et c’est ça le probleme…
Not through the Notation Preferences, but for a 4/4 bar you could enter the time signature in the popover as [1+2+1]/4 and that will take care of most of what you want.
I seem to have spoken of Dorico 5.1.7 ; if you have a previous version (5.1.5 or 5.1.6 or more ancient, these settings are bugged and don’t work.
Try to input your time signature with the Popover 4/4. (the bug was not here when we enter TS via the Popover) or [1+1+1+1]/4, or the one given by Damian.
As a last resort, if nothing works, you can use the ‘O’ (letter) key method mentioned above to initiate the « force duration » procedure (but don’t forget to deactivate this command afterwards ; this is also the button showed below in the left panel in Write mode).
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ok je ferais la mise a jour illico. enfin… plus tard. toujours plus tard.
In that case might as well force it then. I was looking for project wide options. If I am being finnicky its because I want to understand how the program works and where the limitations are!
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