How to hide bar lines and set this speed

I have just started learning Dorico, but I don’t know how to create such a score (such as how to hide bar lines and set this speed).The people around me don’t know how to operate it, so I have to ask everyone here. However, I am using a translator, so my statement may be strange, but if everyone is willing to tell me how to do it? thank you!

anybody else————who would like to help me ——

Welcome to the Dorico forum, but please be patient. In some parts of the world it is very late at night or early morning. It is possible that the Dorico users who could help are still asleep.

Ah, Ligeti, love him! As far as I know, this is the only written piece which has true independence of the hands throughout. But I do not know how to pull off the bar line trick though.

As for the tempo indication, you could try MusGlyphs by @dan_kreider. I don’t know if this particular marking is possible in MusGlyphs, but it’s worth a shot.

Got it!Apologize for my recklessness :smiling_face_with_tear:

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Not a problem. Sometimes answers are provided very quickly. It all depends on who is awake and at their computer.

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Yes!!I love his works too,I’m surprised that you can see his handwriting at a glance.Thank you for answering my question, I will go and see if it can be resolved

Here is a first take at it:

Yes the bar rest is not there yet, I would do it with the lines tool - I will update later

You can input independent time signatures with Shift-M [some meter], and alt/option-Enter.

independent piano staves.dorico (466.0 KB)

(EDIT: this Dorico file does not have the other elements, please download the one in the next post)

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Update
tempo indication and bar rest

The tempo eighth grid is made in a second flow.

  • A zero-line instrument is added in Setup Mode (it can be found on the forum as a library to import)
  • This “tempo” instrument is disabled for the first flow, and the piano is disabled for the second flow.
  • In the second flow I wrote the group of eighths and hid their noteheads.
  • I inserted a Shift-X text element “= ca. 88”
  • In Engrave Mode I inserted a music frame, which was then already populated with the second flow’s content.
  • I adjusted frame size and vertical & horizontal spacings to get the result I want.

The bar rest is made with the line tool: there is a suitable line type already, that I inserted and adjusted.

independent piano staves.dorico (467.8 KB)

EDIT: clarifications, better method for tempo indication text frame, updated Dorico file

If this solves your question(s), mark it as Solution :slight_smile:

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I give below the link in order to download the Library :

0 line staff FredGunn

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Thanks @ObiwanKenobi !

Marvelous!

P.S.:

In the examples above I created the parentheses around the 3/4 by just creating a Shift-X textblock and positioning it graphically. To my knowledge time signatures in parentheses are not available in the meter popup, only as a combination:

But if you are not afraid of some deeper level trickery for getting that 3/4 in parentheses, you can try this:

The idea is to replace this symbol with my fake (3/4) display. Of course this will only work, if you don’t need the Penderecki style symbol in another place in the project! If so, you could maybe use some other time signature symbol not needed in the piece, maybe numerator 7 etc.
Here i will proceed to replace the wavy symbol with the (3/4) combo.

  • For this I have to visit Library > Music Symbols…

  • There I search for the symbol in Category Time Signatures and delete it by clicking the trash can:

  • On the right side, in the Range menu I choose Time Signatures to get suitable symbols.
  • I insert the left parenthesis either by double-click, or by selecting it and Add Glyph:

  • I enter 3 and position it at Offset Y 5.0 (you can also just drag it):

  • Now 4, position it, then right parenthesis, and OK

  • Back in the score you should see the result

Of course this method is a tiny bit dubious semantically, but you get – technically – a valid time signature. And – CAVEAT – it is not for a beginning Dorico user (I might just be too confusing…)

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OT: Okay, it’s official, folks:

This fall’s blockbuster new film is "@meixner vs. @johnkprice — The Godzilla vs. Mothra of Dorico!"* (And don’t you worry — plenty more titans are waiting in the wings…)

(*EDIT: As in, they are both seriously “beastin’ it” and laying waste to even the toughest notational challenges! :smile:)

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wow … :blush:

(I will be bowing to Grandmaster @johnkprice for a long time to come …)

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@meixner has progressed to the point where he’s giving good advice to others, and that’s what this forum is all about. :grin:

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It’s really just easiest to type this in using MusGlyphs. ((3/4)) will give you this exact design. Hide the real one and input this as text.

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Of course @dan_kreider is right - I’m just on the trip to solve everything in Dorico itself :grin:

(EDIT … although, in my defense … this convoluted method has the advantage of functioning as a real time signature in the preamble, no worrying about placing etc. But of course the effort has to be justified …)

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THANK YOU!!!LOVE YOU SO MUCH :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: :tada: :tada: :tada: