In the attached Dorico document I’ve made my first attempt at placing rhythm cues above a staff. However, I don’t know how to move the rhythm marks above the visible staff.
There are two staffs - one visible and one hidden. The hidden staff contains the rhythm marks. The visible staff utilize the cue feature to display the slash-with-stems notation. The visible staff also contains notes of the piece.
Below is a screen capture of the Dorico document. For some reason the rhythm cues have missing pieces - 8th slashes with connecting beam have a missing 8th slash. I’m guessing this is because the notes of the staff are colliding with the cue rhythm marks.
Anyway, I’m only hours into using Dorico - so I can’t expect much at this point - yet, I can’t pull myself away from fiddling with Dorico. New toy syndrome I suppose.
By “Staffs” I think you mean “Voices”? (i.e. the slashed one and the normal one in your screenshot?).
The missing notes are actually rests which are above the staff.
If you just want slashes instead of the melody, all you need to do is to select the melody and create a new Up-Stem Slash Voice. The notes will convert to slashes but will still play back normally. You can always change them back again to a regular Up-stem Voice if you wish.
I happen to be at my Mac, so I was able to test it, but when using your file, I don’t manage to have the rhythmic cues above the staff either. I tried all relevant options in the properties panel (as a Dorico user from day 1, I know where to look), but nothing works. But I never use slash notation, so I’m in unknown territory here. Hope someone else got a clue.
How you’ve done it is probably not how I would have approached this in particular. In your Just For Playback layout, set the notes back into a regular voice rather than a slash voice; the notes will now show as normal chords, not slashes, here.
Then in your Jazz Guitar layout, select the Gtr cue label, and in the Properties panel, activate Rhythmic cue, and Use rhythmic slashes, then set Distance to e.g. 2.
Finally, you’ll need to swap the arpeggiated notes into a down-stem voice to avoid them interlocking with the cue notes. Select one of the regular notes in the guitar part, use Shift-Command-A to select them all (that’s Edit > Select More), then type Shift+V to swap them into a new down-stem voice. You’ll end up with this:
Yes, I just looked at your file and was going to write as much. I’m not sure how you can get around the problem if you do actually require the cue’d guitar as slashed notation in it’s original staff.
I have two staves - that thing with five horizontal lines. And, I believe, each staff has its own voice. I’ve hidden one staff.
I’m unsure of the differences between a player, an instrument and a voice. I suppose a player could occupy one staff (changing instruments somewhere in the middle). Is a voice synonymous with an instrument? I need to look up what a voice is exactly - or how that differs.
I want the Dorico document I created to look similar to this:
I believe voices were called “layers” in Finale, if that helps. You frequently use them for contrapuntal music when you have two parts on one staff, like a Bach fugue where you have two independent voices on the treble clef staff.
@dspreadbury - Interesting! The distance option in the cues properties (located at bottom) did not work until the top staff voice was reverted back to regular notes. I wonder why that is.
Anyway, it’s working now. Many thanks! Not bad for day one!
Because slash voices always go in the middle of the staff, and can’t be persuaded otherwise when they are cued. (There are ways of moving slash voices – see Notation Options – but not in cues.)
Two (advanced) thoughts: You don’t actually need to hide the cueing instrument. You can just create a layout that does not include it (or remove it from the Full Score as here…).
Also, if you don’t want to identify the Guitar as the cueing instrument, in Engrave, you can select the Gtr. label and drag it off the page (Unfortunately there is no property to hide it).
Actually is possible to set a Start text property override for the cue label, and leave it blank: this make the cue label text disappear:
To edit the property of the (now with invisible label) cue again, you need to click near the first note of the cue and the little red dot control point will appear, together with the properties of the cue:
This was literally my first few hours of using Dorico - and the document provided wasn’t intended for peer review. I was merely clearing a pathway in Dorico to mimic an existing workflow in Finale. Seems easy enough to change the name of an instrument. Or, have I missed the point of something?
Usually, for the lead sheets that I write - the rhythm marks indicate how to play the chord written above.
Hi @silver_mica ,
following @janus useful suggestion (in post #12 here above) of unchecking a Player from a Full score Layout or create a new Layout that doesn’t display that player, here are some Manual pages that explain the incredible functionalities of Dorico Setup Mode (that you can also use in a non linear way changing the settings at any time):
