How to send audio to zoom?

[Brian_Roland]

Just realized that the link shows how to get audio ‘into’ the DAW. To get the DAW output routed into some other app, make the connection from the main asiolinktool.exe instance. I don’t have zoom, but Skype is something similar. Where ever you normally assign audio input/output in Zoom…divert it to those ASIOVADPRO virtual cables, and then it can be connected to any ASIO or WDM app(s) you like. Can even connect multiple ones at the same time.

I.E.
Bottle Microphone connected to inputs 1&2 of your audio device.
Skype routed into the DAW via the ASIOVADPRO virtual cables.
Whatever you want from the DAW group being sent to Skype.

You’d make connections something like this.

Now you can direct your mic and sends, of whatever you want going to Skype, isolate your Skype stuff to come through ear-phones only to prevent feedback issues, and also monitor/record Skype from inside the DAW.

EDIT: Here I’ve assigned my mic and skype inputs as ‘external instruments’ instead of ‘inputs’. It adds a good bit of flexibility to how things can be routed in Cubase. It adds a full strip with inserts, sends, and everything! Thus, the ability to manage everything right there on the DAW mixing desk, and track/record the conference a variety of ways all at the same time!

[Sheriff_Adeyemi]

I’ll screen record the process later so send a link here if I don’t get it right or I missed a step thanks for your help

[Brian_Roland]

I think you’ll get the hang of it soon enough.

The main ‘tricky part’ is grasping…

The first several ASIO DRIVER IN/OUT pins are going to be whatever your audio device has to offer.

Whatever is ‘above that’ you can use for whatever you want.

In general, you’ll handle connections going OUT of an app from the main asiolinktool.exe instance. If the stream is intended to go to an output of your audio device…or out over the network, here’s where you connect the pins. I.E. Routing something coming in from a WDM virtual cable straight to your speaker connection. I.E. routing some ASIO app set to use outputs 49 & 50 into a pair of loopback pins so it can then be connected to a different ASIO App. With loopback enabled, you’ll do 99% of your ‘output routing’ in this main instance, and use the loop-back rail to get it into other apps, or off to a physical device output.

With multi-clients active, any time you launch an ASIO app that is using ASIO Link Pro as its driver/backend, a fresh new instance of ASIO Link pops up in your system tray. It can get a bit confusing…

To get streams INTO your ASIO app, you’ll use the instance of ASIO Link Pro that opened with said app. I.E. Connecting the mic plugged into ports 1 & 2, keyboard in 3 & 4, and guitar in 5 & 6 of your sound card. And connecting stuff routed into the WDM virtual cables, etc.

[Brian_Roland]

Yikes, I show an improper connection above…edited to correct it.

Up top in the Cubase11.exe instance, I’d connected to outputs instead of inputs but it’s fixed now. Duu…

[Sheriff_Adeyemi]

Thank u very much it working how would u go about setting up your

[Brian_Roland]

@Sheriff_Adeyemi

how would u go about setting up your

Depends on the type of Mic.

Is it a nice mic with XLR that requires a pre-amp?
Maybe it’s a USB mic or headset?
Bluetooth?

If it’s a plug-in type mic…then plug it into your audio device and route that port or ports into Cubase/Nuendo with ASIO Link Pro.

If it can be analog OR USB, unless it supports ASIO, I recommend NOT going the USB or Bluetooth route with an ASIO DAW if you can avoid it. Lots of hoops to jump through!

If it’s a USB or Bluetooth thing that doesn’t include ASIO drivers then it can get pretty tricky. You’ll need some intermediary method to pull it into the ASIO system. The simplest method would probably be to use ASIO4ALL to aggregate it in with your main sound card (in lieu of using the native ASIO drivers); however, I don’t recommend that as a long term option if you have a nice audio device with ASIO drivers.

If you don’t mind routing all your desk top sounds and all in as well, you might be able to set such a mic in ‘listen mode’ in the Windows Audio settings (would be a little tick mark in the Window’s sound control panel for the mic), and then set the entire Windows Default audio device as one of your ASIOVADPRO WDM devices. It’d pass through then, but so would any other dings, alerts, tactile clicky sounds, bells and whistles that Windows like to make.

Another approach for non ASIO USB or Bluetooth gear would be to run it into some app as a ‘pass through’ that uses standard WDM drivers, and then route that app out to one of the ASIOVADPRO virtual drivers so you can bring it into an ASIO DAW like Cubase/Nuendo. Personally I’d use an instance of Bidule running in stand alone for this, but it might be a bit overkill as an investment just to route a mic (buy a good mic for your sound-card instead).

Right this moment I can’t think of a good ‘pass-through’ app for this as I have bidule and that works great for me in situations like this, but I’ll see what I can come up with that won’t be a risky or expensive download and follow up if I find something.

Edit: Maybe something like this Voice Meter would work. It says it supports ASIO, or, you could route it through one of the virtual ASIOVADPRO WDM devices and go through ASIO Link Pro.

[Sheriff_Adeyemi]

I use deity v mic d3 pro with the deity xlr adaptor into my mixer but the input of that is being used by nuendo nuendo now is there a way for nuendo to use two separate sound cards so I’ll my USB mixer into and will send everything to zoom

[Brian_Roland]

@Sheriff_Adeyemi

is there a way for nuendo to use two separate sound cards

Best option: Have a true ASIO audio interface with enough inputs/outputs to get the job done, and a cable connected mic to the interface.

Other possibilities exist…

It’s possible to aggregate multipe cards/devices by using ASIO4ALL instead of your native ASIO device drivers. but you need to be careful.

ASIO4ALL is a type of doorway between WDM drivers, and the ASIO backend. In its advanced mode, it’s possible to aggregate multiple devices into the same driver.

It’s less of a problem if you just want more ‘inputs’. It’ll work in a pinch for most people…for some it’s rock solid and performs well for that purpose; however, it’s a finicky kludge. It won’t hurt to give it a try, but if this is long term thing you’ll use often you can and should do better (Get a nice ASIO interface with enough inputs and outputs for your jobs).

If you want more ‘outputs’ from your aggregated setup, unless your devices have something like a word-clock or SPDIF port and the ability to lock onto a common clock, then you have a ‘clock’ problem with ASIO4ALL! Each card using his own clock, and the signals will eventually drift out of sync with each other. In some cases it might also cause system instability/crashes.

Instead, I’d suggest keeping your true ASIO device anchored with proper ASIO drivers to ASIO Link Pro, then taking a look at that Voice Meter app (and others on that web-site) and see if you can build a bridge between your USB mixer and ASIO Link. I’ve not tried it so can’t say how well it works, but if I’m not mistaken, it should be able to serve as a passthrough, and it’d have some jitter control built in. So you’d go: Mic > USB Mixer > Voice Meter > ASIO Link Pro > Anywhere you want it from there…

OR if you have a second PC handy, maybe a laptop or something, you could install ASIO Link Pro on that as well, and use the networking features to bring in your USB mixer over a LAN connection. This might also work if you were to run two user accounts on the same machine, each with instances of ASIO Link Pro, one bound to your ASIO card, the other to your USB Mixer, then network them together via ASIO Link Pro (using the local machine IP…it’d not need to go to an actual router and back).

[Brian_Roland]

@Sheriff_Adeyemi

I use deity v mic d3 pro with the deity xlr adaptor into my mixer but the input of that is being used by nuendo nuendo now is there a way for nuendo to use two separate sound cards so I’ll my USB mixer into and will send everything to zoom

WAIT…let me read up on this.

I think ASIO Link Pro is all you’ll need, but let me make sure…

What are you using for an audio device into the PC?

…

What I’m thinking is you have everything you need.

Plug your Mic into your audio card as you always have.

Between ASIO Link Pro, and your Nuendo Mixing Console, you should be able to do this:

1. Route both the Mic and Zoom into Nuendo using ASIO Link Pro.

2. Mix your mic and whatever else you want to play into Zoom in Nuendo (Use Groups and Sends to establish whatever kind of ‘mix’ you want going out over Zoom).

3. Route Zoom back into Nuendo. Use the Mixing Console in Nuendo to send this to whatever you want to ‘hear’ the zoom chatter coming back to you through. I.E. Into some headphones.

You could also make recordings of everything while you’re doing the conference.

Routing kinda like this on the Mixer:

Don’t forget that in ASIO Link Pro, you can route things to more than one place at the same time! ASIO Link Pro can also record and mix things in its own right.

If I understand correctly…you should have everything you need at hand.

[Sheriff_Adeyemi]

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[Sheriff_Adeyemi]

Is there a video on how to do this with nuendo I’m still a bit confused I can still send audio to zoom but it’s the setting up groups routing I need help of

[MattiasNYC]

Still seems like Voicemeeter would be easier to use…

[Sheriff_Adeyemi]

I just uninstall voicemeeter I wasn’t able to get audio out of voicemeeter into zoom I’ll have to figure something out for tomorrow

[Brian_Roland]

1. Get your Mic routed into Nuendo as an external instrument.
2. Get zoom audio routed into Nuendo as an external instrument.
3. In the VST rack, load the mic and zoom connections you’ve made.

By setting these inputs as ‘external instruments’ instead of regular inputs, you get more routing flexibility on the Nuendo mixing console. I.E. You can add vst effect inserts, and you get aux sends that can be used to route the signal to multiple channels at once.

Next you’ll take care of the output.

4. In Nuendo: Make an output in Nuendo routed OUT to Zoom.

5. In Nuendo: If you want to use headphones to isolate just the Zoom conference add an output for that as well and route it to where your headphones are connected.

Route your Zoom input to these headphones, or the mains if you want it to flow out of your main monitors. This way you can hear what others are saying/doing in your zoom conference without causing a feedback situation on Zoom.

6. In Nuendo: Make a group called Soundtrack Mix. Route any music, audio files, live instruments, etc. here. Do NOT include the zoom input or your mic in this group.

7. In Nuendo: Make a group called Zoom Mix. Route this to the Zoom output. Only things that should be broadcasted over zoom should be routed into this.
   a. Route your Microphone here.
   b. Route your Soundtrack Mix here.

Nuendo does offer multiple Mixer windows of which you can have configured for multiple purposes. Take advantage of these…scale one back so it only shows your main groups and mic that are required to get a nice mix going out over zoom if that helps.

If you want to record your session and the session requires you to start and stop the Nuendo transport alot, then you could do that through ASIO Link Pro itself (Have it record to a multi track file, that you can sort out in your DAW later. Or…route the outputs you want recorded to a simple stereo wav recorder and just start that recording before your session begins).

If your session is one where you just start Nuendo playing and talk over it (not having to stop/start the transport), then you can route stuff you want to record on the mixer into audio tracks (aux sends will be helpful) and record it right there in Nuendo at the same time you’re doing the conference.

[Brian_Roland]

P.S. A simpler alternative…

Simply use ASIO Link Pro to route the mic and Nuendo both directly into zoom. You CAN have multiple connections into the Zoom pins.

Then use ASIO Link Pro to route the output of both programs back to whatever you want to monitor them through.

Done.

You set your mic levels directly in the ASIO Link Pro mixing grid.

It might look something like this:
Scenario:
Mic is plugged into ASIO Device, ports 1 & 2 > ASIO Outputs 1 & 2 (Your speakers) AND to the inputs for Zoom.

Nuendo is routed out to channels 17 & 18. Take that to the loop back rail, then connect it to ASIO device 1 & 2 outputs as well.

Now BOTH the DAW and your Mic are routed into Zoom, AND to your speakers.

It could also be done without the loopback rail if Nuendo is assigned your actual ASIO Device outputs. (1 & 2).

You can set your mic level here:

And now I see your screen shot above. Mono microphone? I’d hook it to both left and right channels.

Scenario:
Nuendo is set to go straight to ASIO Device: Outputs 1 & 2

Mic bypasses Nuendo totally (unless you’ve got an input set to 1 & 2), and goes straight to ASIO Device: Outputs 1 & 2

ASIO Outputs go into Zoom AND to your speakers.

Note: Whenever you’re working with actual asio device channels, Nuendo can pick those up right away without having to connect anything in ASIO Link Pro. I.E. Say your audio device has 8 inputs. Those are already going to be picked up by anything connected to ports 1 - 8. Same for actual device outputs.

[Sheriff_Adeyemi]

Thanks u very much for helping it scenes seems this method is working Simply use ASIO Link Pro to route the mic and Nuendo both directly into zoom. You CAN have multiple connections into the Zoom pins.

Then use ASIO Link Pro to route the output of both programs back to whatever you want to monitor them through.

Done.

Idk how I can send audio to zoom from nuendo and my mic from asio link other than that there just a little delay and the audio cut out on the other end but it will be fine

[Brian_Roland]

Glad you’re making some progress.

It is quite possible to route your mic and zoom into Nuendo, Nuendo to your main audio card outputs and to zoom; then, use the Mixing console in Nuendo to send stuff anywhere where you’d like (with effects and such on your mic if desired).

It seems it’ll just take a bit of practice.