Hub Preview - Export location, only short preview and others

Hi.

The new preview in the hub is nice but it’s strange for me :slight_smile:

First, where is the location of the preview?

When selecting create the preview is rendered but no play button in hub (restart Cubase beforehand) for the project.

When a play button for another project ist available there is only a short preview.

So, are the any other requirements to create a preview?

The Preview is stored in the Project file.
When you create a Preview, you have to save your Project.
As to length, around 2 seconds here.

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preview is too short.

What a pity that they didn´t add Favourites in Hub.

Preview is 5 seconds. (Any longer and the project file size would be increased far too much).

FWIW:

I wrote a little app that will extract the preview or allow you to right click on the project file and play it without opening the Hub. (It’s Windows only sorry).

Also I made a PLE that will save the preview and save the project, and update a marker to show you where the preview is located. Highly recommend you try this. Or make your own.

DL in the usual place.

Thanks.

Yes, 5s is way to short.

My projects always had an gap at the start of 10s, so sometimes the preview is silent.

From which location is the preview rendered? The option “From startpointer” renders a part which is not at the start of the song position pointer.

Hi.
I agree 5s is way too short. Ideally, we should be able to set a loop that would be representative of the song but for sure there still need to be a ceiling time to avoid previews being too heavy. But certainly 20/30s should do.

As for your specific problem you can put the cursor at some place and set it as the project preview start.

That’s by the bottom of the project menu

Cheers.

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It would be great to have the preview stored next to the project file. this way you could go through folders and listen without starting cubase. I don’t care if it’s short. I just want to remeber what idea or what track it is as i save my projects with just the date as a name most of the time. Another benefit would be, that the project file would not get bigger.

But i can confirm, that at this state the preview is doing weird stuff. It leaves out a bunch of tracks. I did a few tests and it leaves out tracks that uses the pattern editor. But then I changed a track to midi editor with only one note and the preview then was, what was in the pattern editor before. Weird.
But overall I really liek that feature. Helps a lot.

Maybe allow the user to set length, and file type - mp3/flac

Great feature though

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Storing the preview as a separate file wouldn’t work, there are many reasons for this. What if you changed the name of the project. What if you have 20 projects in the same folder etc.

Regarding things missing from the preview. You can use the menu item to set the preview cursor position. So that the preview will be taken from a specific position. The preview is just an export of what it sees so there’s no reason it would skip anything, other than if there is nothing to play in that area. Usual export caveats apply.

Using mp3 as the file type is also not a good idea. I understand why you would say that, but actually the mp3 type requires processing in order to save it and play it back. On top of which, which type of mp3 would be used etc.

Tips, as mentioned a few times:

Turn off auto create of preview and use manually create.
To go a stage further, you can create a PLE, or use mine, that will give you an option to save the project and save the preview at the selected cursor position, and another stage further is to set a preview locator marker.

Especially powerful when added to a button on my CN Remote panel.

(I really need to do a video on all this).

Download in usual place.

Also if you’re on Windows, I wrote a little app that will do 2 things. It will give you the ability to extract the preview to a file. And it gives you the ability to right click in the project file itself, (without having Cubase open), and play the preview in your default audio player.

Download in the usual place.

I’m on mac, so yours won’t do it :wink:
I did a few more tests and now it worked as it should with the auto creation. Doing it manually - well then I could do a short recording by myself aswell and save it where ever I want. I think it is that auto thing that makes it really usefull.

As for the external file saving, I don’t see why the file could not be named as projectname_preview.wav or smth similar.

However I’m really happy that there is something like that now.

What about FLAC?

I didn’t mean you have to do it manually. I suggested setting up a PLE that allows you to save a preview from a specific point whenever you choose to, along with saving the project.

About the project names, as mentioned, what happens if you move a project, or change a project name etc. what would happen when I manually rename my project-01 to Project final. There are so many examples of why this was done.

About FLAC, yes, as with mp3 all require decoding (time plus power no matter how minimal it might be).

You guys must bear in mind that Steinberg did think of all these options and permutations before releasing the feature.

There are autosave files in a subfolder of the project. What happens with them if you rename the projekt. Or move? These examples you made should make this impossible, too. When I rename my projekt to Project final the next autosafe file has another name, too. Same could be done with the audio preview. I don’t see how that would’t work the same way :slight_smile:
But it’s really not that important. There are much more important things to fix right now. (The midi device mappings getting lost for example).
So I’m just good with how this preview works right now.

As I mentioned. People need to have the ability to rename and move project files manually, using the OS file system.

As you say, not to worry.

What I was trying to point out is simple though. It works as expected.

As I was replying to all of above on the phone, I couldn’t add this. But now back in studio I thought I would add this in case it is useful for anyone.

What this PLE does:

  • Save your project
  • Save a preview from the cursor position
  • Set a cycle marker on a Marker Track to show where the preview is taken from (you need to add a maker track named “Preview” but if you don’t need this functionality then there is no need to do that).

I am not forcing anyone to do this, this is just in case you find it useful.

For best usage, turn off automatic creation of preview and assig the PLE to a key command, or to button if you are using my CN Remote Panel:

PAP Preview Cycle Marker.xml (6.8 KB)