Huge latency issues when using Vocal Chain

Gave VC a try for the first time today and was unusable for recording as almost a whole second of delay when it was on. Played around with the buffer size but made no difference.

I’m using Cubase Artist, iMac, Monterey

i seem to have the same issue on my MacBook pro 14" , Sonoma , Cubase 13

Vocal Chain is not suitable to be used while recording for live monitoring.
Use it only after all recording has been done. It introduces a too high latency.

It does very much so! In my opinion this would be a plugin that could be used in the direct offline processes if you want to minimize that effect - like I would do with other plugins that are cpu/ram heavy and produce a lot of latency (ie. virtual amps)…

Cubase 14 Pro on iMac and Vocal Chain still has a delay problem. Thats dissappointing. How come no one mentioned that it can only be applied after the vocals are recorded?

Found this out the hard way last night. It can’t even be on the insert turned off. It has to be completely removed from the track.

Every insert plugin can be turned off. There is a power button.
In the channel view you’ll have to Alt/Opt click.

My phrasing was not great here. Correct. You can turn it off. But even when you turn it off massive latency will persist on that track unless you remove it from inserts. Which leads me to believe it’s a bug. I had a singer go back to fix something on a track that was using vocal chain. I shut off vocal chain and was showing very low latency on my control panel but was getting tremendous latency on the track. Nothing fixed it with the exception of removing Vocal Chain from the inserts. Great tool but I doubt that’s how it’s meant to function.

Where do you track the latency figure. I use it but never noticed the latency, but perhaps I have a faster hardware CPU so its slowing things but compensated for, I’m using both Apple Silicon and Intel Macs (i9 processor)

David

Set up Window Layout Pane:

Mixconsole/Setup Window Layout/Channel Latency

As johnny Said, Alt Click completely disables the plugin, there are two states of disable, just clicking on the power for the plugin will not shut it off. Channel Latency will show no latency for the Vocal Chain if Alt/Opt Clicked and 222.3 ms if just clicked without the modifier key.

Interesting. I was aware of bypassing the effect and turning it off but I was not aware of completely disabling it. I will try this.

Thanks for that.

Just set the item in its checkbox but when clicking the little arrow on the channel which I assume should open the channel latency window, nothing appears to happen. Yet another issue to test for and resolve. At least I know a little about programming reliability can’t imagine what it does to the confidence of those who don’t even it they can find the menu item.

Anyways thanks again ill get it to work eventually lol.

David

If there is no plugin in the channel or it’s fully disabled there will be no latency to read. VocaChain has a very generous helping though.

Ok Thanks for pointer Ill revisit my test by using Vocal chain on the test in trying to open window.

Cheers

David

Question: has anyone here had an issue with using this as DOP and the latency resulting in just silence at the start of the event?