I can't really defend this anymore

You got the gist of it. They can’t charge for bug fixes but they can charge for new features.

Easy money.

Any other DAW is already doing better than Cubase. Things like bug fixes, audio improvements, new features. They do that faster.

I dunno, a quick tour of other forums shows that all forums are riddled with bugs and fix requests. The grass is not greener on the other side…

So you are implying that Cubase is the very worst DAW?

That’s not always true though. It took ProTools 8 years to implement PDC. When they did it, every DAW already had it for a couple of years already. Same with track folders.

No, of course. But with that slow development it might become worse than others.

What is this slow development?
Cubase is an industrial leader and my version (latest on windows) is rock solid.

Steinberg is not necessarily slow as far as development of the software goes. They are slow with bug fixes though. And that when the implementation of new features doesn’t create new bugs which only aggravate unfixed ones.

And let’s not even get started on when Steinberg outright removes features from Cubase that were present in earlier versions for unexplained reasons. As an example, you cannot navigate the whole Cubase interface using only the keyboard. That was possible in version 12, but then someone decided it was not to be and then you can no longer do it since version 13. And it’s not like they just removed the shortcut mappings. They removed the shortcuts.

Yeah tell that to our fellow Logic Pro friends, who are still waiting for ARA support on Apple Silicon…

This! Example?

they finally made it and have broken a couple of other things because of them.. aaaa. steinberg… :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:
i think that fact goes in line with the thread,

this +100

i rather have less new features but old bugs and new bugs fixed way more quickly

kinda reminds me when someone at microsoft decided to remove “find and replace” from the mac version of outlook last year, i dont use many functions in outlook but “find and replace” was one of them.
WHY?

You don’t need to ‘defend’ your kit and software choices.

When giving advice to others on ‘software’, I always say get the demo and try it on your hardware. Shop around. Take your time.

I state what I like about my choices and how/why it works for me. I’m also up front about things I find annoying, inadequate, or unnecessarily time consuming.

For some people I wouldn’t even recommend a PC/Mac based approach at all. There are so many affordable ways to compose, create, track, and master these days that it makes my head spin. It hasn’t been that long ago I recommended to someone a simple $600 Yamaha arranger keyboard that can track vocals (DGX-670, which is basically an emulated MU128 rompler set up with improved sounds, and configured so 16 channels run like an old GM2/XG/GS tone module, and the other 16 channels run the live sounds and the Yamaha ‘style’ engine), along side a simple porta-studio that can take and record 8 inputs in one go, can mix up to 32 tracks, includes mastering tools to multiple formats, has the mixer and preamps built in, etc. It simply seemed to me like it fit that musician’s style and comprehension of song writing, composing, and tracking sessions with his ‘hands on’ musician buddies way better than our fancy ‘do it all in the PC’ options (that also require hooking up half a dozen dongles/interfaces/etc).

I see no need to ‘defend’ or advocate for or against any of the options out there. For me it’s more like: “I heard about this, tried that, and you can too. Don’t trust me…try it yourself.”

Why did they do it this way? I dunno…I can speculate, but I really don’t know. It is what it is…

I can’t build a guitar, I can’t make drum shells, I can’t fabricate a new piano, I can’t spin/drop/cast/mold a Tuba. I can shop around and try the stuff made by people who can do all of those things, and settle on the one that ‘feels the best’ in my hands, sounds the best to my ears, and fits in my budget. I don’t need to ‘defend’ my choice…not even to myself if I later decide I made a mistake. If I make a mistake, I can choose yet again to make do with my choice, or go shopping and try again.