Improved routing

Hello guys,

I have found myself watching a sound design tutorial where the guy uses other DAW and I have realised how inefficient routing in cubase is when it comes to feeding inputs on a audio track.
When we create audio track and want to record sounds from other inputs midi vst or other audio we need to go and create sends then rout it it works but it is tedious why not have the option to directly send sounds to newly created audio track in the input section?

I have also found there is no way the record the whole output on a new audio track. Possibly creating a group track of all tracks but that is such a waste of time why not just have direct input source from output?

Improve routing please.

No sends are needed. You can use Group Tracks.

You can set up a permanent buss for this purpose too.

Cubase has very flexible routing.

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Can you please point me to the direction how to set this up?

Which edition do you use? In Cubase Pro you can use a group to route it to an audio track.
Setup a group before the output bus and record this.
On the other hand, there is the audio export that exactly does this.

I don’t know what you mean. My Cubase/Nuendo might work different. Or maybe you get confused with the many possible names for the areas in Cubase.

To setup what? Groups?
How do you create tracks?
Never seen that there are more options than audio, instrument and midi tracks?

Your posts in the last weeks making me think you should watch Cubase tutorials, not sound design tutorials.
There is a common scheme with labels, names, and descriptions for things related to Steinberg DAW.
In other DAW it is just named different, and some videos on the internet make you think the DAW of the YouTuber is the only DAW that has this feature.

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Can you give us an example tutorial?

You most likely did not understod what I am saying. You wrote so much things, but have not given even one example.

I have said that if I want to record on the go FX to an audio track there is tedious routing that needs to be done and it is quite limited, in some other DAWs you can just select any input source and it is as simple as that. In Cubase you can only use stereo in and bus but not individual teracks or stereo out.
You are saying to watch tutorilas but tell me which one covers how to record whole project output to an audio track in Cubase? I have found none. Loads of talk but zero solution?

To be honest, what the hell do you mean with that? I have no idea what you are trying to do.
I do live recordings with 64 individual tracks.

Oh, still miss the answer to my question, which Cubase edition do you use?

Just type the words “Cubase Tutorial” in Google.
There are many Cubase dedicated tutorials available.
Or you can start with the Steinberg website.

Then why did you even engage with the post if you have no idea what I am talking about? :rofl: I am using Cubase 12 Pro version

I meant those OPs other DAW sound design tutorials. Just wanted to see, what’s not supposed to be possible in Cubase

As I said I have found none on the subject.

OK, try to record your entire session to another audio track in Cubase can you do that? Tell me what complicated template you need to create to be able to do this if this is even possible?

Yes, very simple, create new track, unroute it from the main to avoid feedback loop and select the Stereo Out as input.
If you search google with “Cubase record stereo out” the first finding is a thread about Cubase 8 that covers that.

Cubase prevents internal routing situations where a feedback loop is possible. To avoid damaging your gear.

No template needed.

Yes, I have figured that eventually, but there is no direct routing to with other channels only sends or buses or solo.

I think you’re thinking about this the wrong way actually.

In other DAWs like for example Pro Tools the buses - which by definition means paths that sum several signals - are partially visible. They are visible because we see the word “bus” and we can select them as inputs/outputs, but they are then not visible in the Pro Tools mixer or edit window as “tracks”. In Pro Tools the “Auxes” are visible.

In Cubase/Nuendo our “Group” tracks are basically like if you took the Pro Tools “bus” and ‘hardwired’ it together at the beginning of an “Aux” track. So when we look at a “Group” or an “Output bus” we might as well think of that as a [PT bus]+[PT aux].

This means that in Pro Tools you can’t record a mix or anything on an audio track without having a source, and that source is going to be something that is tied to a bus because you wanted to sum things, and that means that in PT you’ll have to choose a bus as an output. Same thing here - choose a group or output bus as a destination for whatever it is you want to record, and you can then choose that as an input on an audio track for record.

Obviously you have to make sure you don’t route so you get feedback, and that is going to be true in any DAW.

So I don’t really see the problem in this case.

Not that, I notice that some things in Cubase are done in a way that requirs you to do more steps…while others have found a way to simplify things for users to speed up the workflow. Good example is midi backup you need to create seperate tracks if you render in place but you want to keep the midi. In other DAW you can have it all on one track and have access to it at any time.

I’m just saying that in a lot of cases the “steps” are still there, you just don’t think of them the same way in other DAWs. In PT you would have had to set up your project with buses already created in order to route multiple tracks to a bus - and then use that bus as an input. It feels like it’s easier because the default templates or whatever already come with a bunch of buses created but you could do the exact same in Cubase by creating a template with whatever buses you think you’d need.

I am not talking about Pro Tools there is nothing special about Pro Tools.

Ok well how about you tell us step-by-step how it’s done in a different DAW - a workflow that you would like to see in Cubase?

So, about what are you talking?