Is there anyway to add a plugin of form for Indian notation?
What I’d love to be able to do is to have a staff that takes note names and outputs them into solfege with an option for Indian solfege (sa, re, ga, ma…)
also known as saragame. To take a staff and have an instrument translation that’s like tab but instead of numbers could output those saregama note names on a single percussion like lined staff. That would be amazing.
I assume that for now the only workaround is to actually add a single line percussion staff and add in lyrics with the saregama below.
Really, Indian notation ends up looking more like:
S…G…r…N—srGrS
Ok, can’t really do it, but the rhythms are typically written as dots and dashes with underlined notes for lower octave and dots about note names for octave above. Slurs for ornaments, capital letters for major, small for minor intervals.
I expect this be a very small group of people interested in this, but it would be really cool to find a way to to it.
Welcome to the forum, gzapper. I’m afraid it’s not currently possible to build this kind of plug-in in Dorico. We do intend to add support for solfège in future, and hopefully we’ll be able to add support for Indian solfège when we do so.
Thanks, Daniel. Solfege with Indian options would be great. It would be a massive job figuring out how to redo rhythmns in their dot dash manner and understand it would be a super small market request, so would be happy with solfege. I tried doing it with lyrics but you can’t add dots and dashes. Even for me this is just one project that will keep me busy for a year or so, so not something I’d expect to use that often myself.
By the way, loving Dorico so far. Coming from Finale into Sibelius it just makes so much more sense. Congrats, its a massive job doing a new program but it must have also been satisfying to start with a clean slate and a great understanding of how it should be done. It really shows in how consistent and clear the interface and operation is, its just so much more satisfying to use.
Welcome to the forum, @Hindol_Sardar. There hasn’t been any development towards specific Indian notation support. What particular features are you looking for, out of interest?
I think the easiest solution would be to include sa re ga ma pa da ni sa (sarigam) as an option for text when you do Solfege. Its the same idea, with capitals for sharp versions (M = #4, R = maj 2nd,…). Though I expect its more for teaching than scores, reading music at gigs is really not part of the north or souther traditions.
I’m doing a Mahabharata now and being able to document some of the charts for western and Indian musicans at the same time would be handy.
Hello @dspreadbury ! I kept wondering why I never got any reply in my email and just saw your reply here in the forum. I have been playing an Indian Instrument and working together with jazz and European classical musicians. I want to make series of learn videos combining Indian music notation and Western notation together for all learners. This would intern generate interest specially those into Indian music to migrate to such a software. I am looking for a full Indian Notation integrated plug in in Dorico. It would be great if such a plug in is developed asap. Best, Hindol
You can post/attach them here (in the post editor window there is an Upload button, or you can just drag them into the post editor window). The Dorico Team reads every post, and it would be interesting for the users to see those examples.
Here’s a page from Ali Akbar Khan’s excellent ‘the Classical Music of North India’, had the good fortune to study briefly at his college in California a long time ago.
Its solfege, sa re ga ma pa da ni sa. Capital is major, lower case minor. Taal on top, dot on top for octave, slurs on top, brackets on bottom for beat groupings…
If you’re interested, there are a few pages with excellent notation rules I can also post.
Interesting topic. Ordinarily, what notation software is currently used to produce these desired results.? Or, for the book, would they all have been prepared inside a Desktop Publishing package (Adobe Illustrator/Indesign, etc…).? Just curious…
You might be able to get close to this style using a 0-line staff (available here), then use Nashville style chord symbols, where the Nashville numbers have been globally replaced with the desired characters.
There are also quite a few notation options on this pretty cool list of notation software:
Thankyou @gzowski for providing with the examples. @Christian_R Initially I used one of the Indian notation softwares integrated in Microsoft word for the syllabus that I wrote but it was too time consuming. But it is not fully correct. So, one has to also use PDF editor to achieve full accuracy. The book above is also not accurate because certain symbols are not available and it is a make shift arrangement. In short there is a shortage of efficient, less time consuming and accurate software with all the symbols.
