Hello all!
finale migrate here 
new to Dorico and try to find but couldn’t find specific question (or I’m not sure what terms Dorico uses.)
so I’m making instruction for beginner piano class and want add 2 pages between other pages I already created.
1st page : grand piano staff for a page
2nd page : lead sheet
I’m looking into making page template but no success there yet.
anybody can give me some hint what I should do?
thanks in advance!
Hi @KYUMIN_SHIM - it sounds like frame selectors will be partly what you’re looking for, as they allow you to select exactly what music you want to show in a specific frame.
For example, if you don’t need to reuse these pages’ designs elsewhere, you could just set this up as local page overrides, which in some ways is simpler to work with whilst you get familiar with the tools because it’s more directly “what you see is what you get”.
So, you could -
Finally, this might not be exactly appropriate to your project, but this Discover Dorico session by John Barron might help explain some tips and tricks you can employ?
Thanks Lillie.
in some reason your method doesn’t work here, and I think I need better explanation what I want to archive.
so I’m making few pages of instruction pdf so there is only one instrument " piano ".
few pages contains few bars of examples and text tool bar that explains things.
and I want to add pages with blank grand piano staff as I forgot to mention few things, also add pages with blank treble clef to just write down some chords progression.
btw, your explanation works beautifully if I want to re-use some some of materials from another page, now I start to understand “flow” and more things.
I’m attaching few screenshot that might help !
Make sure the option Show blank staves in systems identical to preceding flow is activated on the Page Setup page of Layout Options. I think that will help in this circumstance.
I did but it doesn’t work. I think as I remove “page overrides” for this specific page as I wanted to remove this page(that I tried to insert between already made pages) that makes your instruction doesn’t work.
since you’re here let me ask few more!
Somehow when I remove page overrides on page 2, it still shows as 2 in the screenshot but on main window that shows scores it moved to page3 Also I want to delete page but it even doesn’t work… kind of frustrated but need to find out what to do.
when I go to “Setup” and uncheck Full score, only Text boxes are shown. is there something wrong with this? I’m not sure yet how Layout works in Dorico.
also When I check Full score again, it automatically corrupt layout.
any workarounds for this?
That sounds odd – can you share the project file itself for us to take a look?
What you unticked the full score with the Piano player selected on the left, what you did was remove the piano from the full score. That tells Dorico: don’t show this player’s music in the score. So it doesn’t! Here’s some information about the relationships between players, layouts, and flows.
You’re left with text at the tops of pages because those pages already had overrides, which lock them in place. If the page overrides weren’t there, you’d get a blank screen (because there’s no players assigned to the score layout, so Dorico has nothing to show)
It would be helpful to see the file, to see exactly what’s going on. It’s possible that you added text frames to p1 directly, resulting in page overrides, then used staff spacing to move the music around the text? But when you removed the piano from the score, that reset the staff spacing overrides. There’s probably a better way to achieve this result (eg by splitting the music into multiple music frames that you position around the text frames, rather than dragging the staves themselves) – if you share your project, it’ll be easier to see.
Thank you Lillie. I’ll take a look at the link you posted above.
C key triad chord.dorico (857.1 KB)
I’m attaching my file, if you have spare time, please take a look at it and tell me what am I missing probably a lot…
honestly not sure what I should do to understand Dorico. probably use it more and more, trouble shooting and some. but I’ll be there for sure!
thanks Lillie and dspreadbury for your contribution here.
Hi @KYUMIN_SHIM – thanks for sharing your project.
Yes, you have staff spacing overrides here, which will get lost if you remove the player from the layout, or add a new page at the start (because these overrides are linked to the page they originally occurred on).
Here’s your project back with an alternative method of getting the text in: namely, using text items. They exist as part of the music, so Dorico automatically makes space for them, and if the music moves, the explanations move (whereas text frames will remain exactly where you left them on the page, even if the surrounding music is now different).
I might not have put them in exactly the right place, but hopefully you get the idea.
C key triad chord_LH.dorico (750.1 KB)
Also, make sure you’re entering titles etc into Project Info, so you don’t need to add this directly onto individual pages.
ah ha, Thanks!
thank you so much for file as well
so you didn’t use text Frame here I think. I clicked what you did and it was text (shift X right?)
I’m trying it right now on next page for explanation. it works great!
Thank you so much
now I’ll be back here if I have more question.
I’ll try insert pages this time!
ok, for now one last question!
so I edited and added few stuff in the file that you upload.
I need to insert a page between 1-2, so that I can write down some chords and explain some stuff.
I’m following steps that you wrote 1-3, and 4 is where I stuck.
when I select just piano player, and chose Blank staves so that I can write down another short piano voicing, it looks like this.
now what I want to do here is, instead of show just plain stave I want them to be like piano staves with time signature, and few measures so that I can write down piano voicing.
what should I do here?
Can you share the project again, so I can see where you are now?
C key triad chord_LH.dorico (815.0 KB)
here it is!
