Hello!
Houw can i insert this metric modulation formula:
I want that the triplet eight note would be the sixtheen note of the next tempo
I want that the triplet eight note would be the sixtheen note of the next tempo
I use the font MusGlyphs and create the metric modulations as system text. They can even include L- and R-pointing arrows.
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Is it not possible to insert the formula just with the Dorico capabilities?
Thank you!
You must first downlaoad fonts like MusGlyphs or Metrico, and then you can use them very easily with Dorico.
This example is made with MusGlyphs for the first and Metrico for the second:
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Thanks for the answer. The examples look good.
An expensive professional notation software should be able to do this without the need of external fonts.
The word “external” is misleading, suggesting that Dorico has some unique design flaw. All software — including expensive and professional — that render text and glyphs depends on the presence of (“external”) fonts in order to achieve particular visual results. If I don’t have Helvetica Neue, I can’t achieve that look in any word processing or other text-rendering software. When last I checked, even the expensive and professional MicroSoft Word didn’t come with a Tengwar font, so I’d be out of luck if I wanted to write something Elvish. 
FWIW, I have added several additional fonts (even ones I had to purchase) to my system for use in Dorico in order to achieve the particular look I wanted for some score element.
What you seem to be saying is that Dorico “should” come with Metrico and/or MusGlyphs (or other font(s) with similar capabilities) included in the installation.
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What I tried to say is that Dorico, as a professional and expensive notation software should give the power of inserting metric modulations without the help of third party add-ons.
Metric modulations are basic notational items in music, that is the reason why I asked, because it surprised me that Dorico could not do this.
The comparison with Elvish language seems out of place.
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Dorico is only at v5 covering hundreds of years of music notation with all its complexities, rules and exceptions. There is much missing; they must have a very long list of features and improvements to bring to us into the future as any professional software does (or should.)
Hopefully metric modulations will appear soon 
but this (“workaround”) procedure by simply installing a font is what we have for now.
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What I assume he means is that, just as the user can currently type “q=q.” into the tempo popover, it would be equally handy to type “3e=s” into the same popover to get the example above. And of course it will be great when this is added eventually.
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Indeed. This is unfortunately one of the areas where Dorico’s semantic approach breaks down. For now.
It will come, though.
B.
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I totally agree. Goofy attempt at hyperbolic humor aside, my real point was that I think this is a different category of “problem” than, say, not having native support for ties into second endings. (And I fully confess, I bristled due to the large number of recent forum “should”-statements and “flare-ups” claiming structural gaps and flaws in Dorico when, in fact, such complaints didn’t apply — which detract from those times when they genuinely do. Apologies for overreacting, @Santiago_Galan.)
I don’t follow your argument, Benji. My logic is that since tempo indications are system objects which draw from fonts, obviously those fonts need the kinds of symbols Dan put in MusGlyphs to be able to show more intricate indications like metric modulations with tuplets, arrows, etc. But the very fact that basic ones like ♪ = ♩can be entered suggests to me that semantically Dorico is able to handle these. It just needs an expanded set, as Dan points out. Am I wrong about that?
What I really feel is that Dorico is not a “notation” program that allows you to “draw” music with a computer, but it is more of a somewhat “intelligent” software who “knows” what it is doing with every element in the score, according to the rules given by its programmers, but if you try to write something which it does not understand, it simply does not allow you to do it.
Dorico controls the score up to a point I never found in other programs, which let you mess with the notation almost without limits. Regardless of the meaning of what you do in the score.
I guess it has possitive and negative aspects, but anyway it is the way it is.
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I have installed Metrico. And how do you actually find the correct symbol?
I hit Shift X and choose metrico and then try to find it but the font changes at random times to Finale font. It is quite frustrating:/
Doesn’t it work by choosing Metrico and typing 3e=s in the text box?
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Yes, correct, but then again the current implementation I feel is half-way, that’s why I called it “broken”… 
I’m pretty sure it’s because this ties into the handling of tuplets, which in Dorico is a thorny thicket, insanely powerful on one end, but unwieldy on the other.
Especially when it comes to stuff like converting 12/8 to 4/4 and doubling/halving note values and so on.
I have a very strong feeling that the team is working on this stuff in order to make it more intuitive, but the basic concept of “semanticism” (if that’s a word, I’m not sure… ) and having a “stream” of musical events rather than blocks of bars should be well suited for this!
B.
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