Instrument names / staff labels: What happened to "B{@flat@}"?

If I wanted “Trumpet (Bb)” instead of “Trumpet (B flat)” I used to write “(B{@flat@})” in the instrument name in Setup Mode. Then I got the music font “b” nicely where it needed to be on staff labels and on top left of parts.
In Dorico 4.0 this doesn’t seem to work, and I have looked around to see if this is is meant to be solved in another way - but can’t find it. It seems that Engraving Options > Language > Staff Labels probably should be the place, but no luck there so far.
In Norway we tend to accept english names on instruments, but the “(B flat)”-way of expressing the transposition is very uncommon. Are we alone wanting “Trumpet in Bb / Trumpet (Bb)” rather than “Trumpet in B flat / Trumpet (B flat)” ?

I just double checked. It works the same way as in 3.5. US English localization.

It’s rather annoying isn’t it?

Strange… does not work as in 3.5 for me… Is there a setting somewhere that influences on this behaviour? Something to do with “US English” ?

Depending on where you want the name to appear, different names are used – as described here.

Dorico 4 also introduced new staff labelling options for instrument transpositions.

Ups! It works! It just didn’t show in Setup Mode like it used to do. Sorry :slight_smile:

Thank you! :slight_smile:

Correction: It works except for when I want to show player name instead of instrument names. Then, in the part it works, but not in the score.

Have you set up your player names to what you want to show in staff labels when using player names in staff labels?

Thank you for the answer - yes, to my knowledge; In this example the player name is set like this: full name = “Stemme 1 i B{@flat@}” short name = “1. i B{@flat@}”.

I’m trying to get a flat in the instrument names here. I couldn’t find the right answer in the manual and I’m not sure I understand Lillie’s suggestion above.

And while we’re at it: why is this piece on one page in transposed pitch but two in concert pitch?

(“All Available Trumpets” is a little joke from V-W’s Old Hundredth.)

Bill

All Available Trumpets 1.dorico (1.1 MB)

Like this?

Jesper

All Available Trumpets 1.dorico (667.9 KB)

Used reset to default

This is how I want it to look. From Finale:

In Layout Options, you’ll likely want these settings applied to your score layout:

Tweak them as needed, but Position of instrument pitch in staff labels: End, Show on separate line and Show instrument number before transposition are all going to be required for that style.

In Setup, on the left side Players panel, click the little arrow to the left of the Trumpet 1 player to expand it, click the 3 dots, click Edit Names, and ensure you’ve selected Show Transposition: Follow Layout Options for that player, because if you’ve manually changed this, or set it to Never, then the above steps won’t work.

In Engraving Options / Staff Labels, I’m guessing you want Label each staff selected.

Save all that as defaults and you’ll never have to mess with those settings again.

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You’ll want to confirm your Paragraph Styles / Staff Styles are set to right-align too, in case you’ve changed that:

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That does the trick. Thank you. That will be a Clip ‘n’ Save. – Bill

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