Integrate AI into Cubase (AI generated Music Added)

With the Help of AI (Paid version) I could produce this release ready music for the lyrics I gave without the help of any DAW.
No music knowledge needed, no expensive gear needed, no studio or acoustic treated room needed.
DAW’s need to do something to integrate AI and make music production soo easy otherwise DAW’s will be out dated and people will move to cloud based music production.

Attaching the music I created with AI

Simple answer… No.

You didn’t “create” anything. You just invoked a recombination of previously existing recordings. And if you ask me, it sounds subordinary and utterly boring, like a washed-out copy of something we have heard 1000 times.

Horribly generic piece of music. No soul at all. No creativity at all. Nothing.

We focus on the completely wrong things. AI should not replace the things that are fun, like making the actual music, be creative, arranging, composing, but it should replace the boring stuff, like “cut out all parts that contain no saxophone on that track” or “check if the drum mics are in phase to each other and display problems” or “cut this vocal track into phrases and make a basic per clip clip gain adjustment.”. THAT would be cool AI tools.

The problem with AI is that you do not own the results. Disregarding if it is good or bad since that is a matter of taste.

Oh my God, this is getting so freakin’ boring!!!

Do a search on this topic, it has been discused numerous times.

No: Steinberg will not integrade this thing to Cubase. I follow Club Cubase and the answer to this remains the same. There is no Interest from SB to intergrate this to Cubase/Nuendo.

In all honesty, it’s getting kind of boring talking about the same thing over and over again…

Seriously, man, what is the matter with people???

We are in the sphere of intellectual property; it’s such a simple concept, and yet, nobody can understand simple concepts such as copyright ownership.

My wife’s sister “created” a song with Suno, and she calls it “Her song”, I get it, she has NOTHING to do with music, but people in our field are so…I’d better stop before I say something that will get me banned here…I despair man…

A BIG NO from me

People are outdated. What makes you think that putting 15 words together is something AI can’t do? It can do lyrics, music, cover art, everything.

Another no from me before I get too cranky.

Very simple. Use Suno and not Cubase.
I make music for fun and will do it the hard way. :slight_smile:

You do not make music, not even for fun. You just expect some completely unintelligent piece of software to throw some samples together. That has not a tiny bit to do with “making music”

I know, my friend.
But it’s hard to explain to people who use Suno what the difference is.

Something will change but exactly what will it be?

AI tools which allow to create songs will allow people, who so far were not capable of making their own music, to do so. Let’s not argue whether it can be called “their own”.

We had a similiar discussion already two times in the past few decades. First time was when sampling got introduced. This was the first time that people who created a song did not have to create the music or the singing itself but could rather assemble bits and pieces of things that others have done before. There was quite an outcry from “real” musicians and a discussion about copyright.

The second instance was the DAW + plugin revolution. Now even more people were able to create musical pieces as prices for necessary equipment dropped significantly. Add to it that DAWs can help people create music that they couldn’t play themselves or where they would not have access to peole who could. There was and still is quite a discussion about how the quality of music went downhill. At the same time we have the rise of the internet so not only the creation of music but also the publishing became easier and more affordable than ever.

So, now it is going to be the likes of Suno, which will allow even more people to create musical pieces.
We have already seen already during the DAW + plugin + internet revolution that, since many people can make and publish music, the amount of musical pieces created by far exceeded the demand of listening to music by the consumers. And also the willigness of the consumers to browse the whole catalogue to find music that they like.

It could be that people will start to simply task AI music generators to create pieces for the mood that they would like to listen to, rather than looking for already existing music. E.g. music for relaxing, esoteric music, music for meditation.
I can also foresee that people who create music for the non-music industry (elevator music, music for supermarkets, music for background of video training modules, etc.) will see a drastic decline in income.

What about traditional DAWs like Cubase? These programs will serve two kinds of people. Professionals that can do what no AI music generator can do (or in other words: people who outperform the abilities of AI music generators for the professional market). And enthusiasts, who are making music for their own piece of mind. Who embrace the creative process.

Speaking about professionals: They will utilize AI music tools for being able to meet deadlines, to be able to meet increasing demands by their clients. It’s a “whatever it takes” mentality.

I think a lot less money will be earned by the average musician. Less people will be able to make a living from making music. However, this trend already started before the advent of AI music generators. Why is it that you can see many great people giving tipps on platforms like YouTube on how to make music? They are already aiming at the enthusiasts, that I mentioned above.

There will be a place for both. Pure AI music generators and non-AI music software and hardware. Actually, it won’t be binary. There will be products being a mixture of both to varying degrees.

The above is all my opinion only. I don’t really claim everything to happen as I describe it.

IMO, folks need to not equate AI with Generative AI. There are lots of other uses that we can all benefit from, which don’t take away from the creativity aspects.

Vin uses dereverberation and audio clean up tools, that are AI-based, to help clean up the audio in our podcast, for example.

So when someone says “Integrate AI”, it would be better to talk about what you are looking to get from it instead of just treating AI like magic. Otherwise, it’s like saying “Hey Steinberg, please integrate API into your app.”

Pete
Microsoft

It’s clear what type of integration the OP is referring to.

None of the previous technological advances got us to this point where every Dick and Harry becomes a musici…sorry, don’t know how to describe this…

There no level where this thing can be defended. Nothing can justify theft and the process of creating music with prompts.

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Noam Chomsky’s thoughts on AI are worth looking into. He’s one of the most important linguists of the 20th century. A central aspect of his theory is the devaluation of culture in general. Basically speaking, we are at crossroads here.

No talent, no dedication, no inspiration, no skill–not a muscian. You don’t need a DAW.:+1:

This has to be an intentional troll post in good humour

:rofl:

Mix is as boring as the song.

What we need are tools that enable user experimentation