Interesting development from Nektar... CC121 part II.?

Just been looking at the latest NAMM 2024 updates on YT. Found this new controller from the Nektar folk - they call it the Panorama CS12. Currently supporting Apple Logic Pro only but coming to Steinberg next… see here…

Not sure of timescale for integrated Steinberg support, but unit will be priced at £349

Nice.

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Yeah this seems huge.

Where is Cubase’s support though? Still logic only.

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The Nektar Panorama CS12 does not have a jog wheel or a button that could be used for this purpose. This actually makes it unusable as a DAW controller, I think.
:wink:

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I think ‘unuseable’ is a bit dramatic/harsh… :upside_down_face:

But, maybe I’m being too picky and you’re just making an observation.!

[Edit] As of today, Cubase ‘mapping/implementation’ has been in beta for a while. Got to be quite close to launch… :grinning:

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Hello all just to confirm this is happening with Cubase/Nuendo v13 and the integration is written using Steinberg’s own API methods rather than fudging support via MCU.

Full channel strip support including pre-mapped and user assignable parameters and colors for any plugin as seen in the Logic demonstrations, plus support for Cubase’s custom channel strip modules, EQ and Quick Controls in Channel Mode.

The MIDI Remote feature of Cubase is excellent and we are embracing this by allowing the entire channel strip section to be customisable in Channel Mode. User assignments get parameter value and name feedback in the display, plus they support CS12’s unique ‘fine control’ which allows detailed editing of any parameter - way beyond the resolution 7-bit MIDI generally provides.

Jog wheel functionality is an assignable function for the tempo dial next to the display. This control is multi-functional and you can also use it for clip gain.

We are currently in private beta with some select CS12 owners. I expect full release to be November.

Best,

Tim

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Hi Tim - great to get an update on this topic direct from you! I bought a CS12 with the hope that this was coming. Enjoying it in Logic but Cubase is my primary DAW of choice - super excited it is getting closer to release.

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Looks great in Cubase too!

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I asked a couple of (non Cubase) friends who bought the CS12 this year for use with Logic Pro. They say it is great with audio plug-ins but initially seems pretty dumb with Soft Synths. How’s it looking for soft synth VSTs in Cubase?

Hey @Tim_Chandler,
Great to have you on the forums. This all looks very promising, and I’m very excited to try one of these! If this is as good as we hope, the CS12 might very well be the device that finally puts the trusted old CC121 to rest.

Personally, I’m not entirely sure about some of the mapping choices, if this Cubase mapping screenshot represents the “final” default functionality… I would maybe move my left and right locator buttons to another spot while keeping the ⇤ and ⇥ buttons that they currently replaced. But as long as you can change that yourself – no problem! Nuendo/Cubase is already so immensely customisable, so we all have our own unique workflows and preferences – which is maybe why we love these DAWs so much. :grin:

Some additional questions:

  1. If you create a new custom mapping for a plugin, with colours and all – does CS12 then remember these settings and bring them back the next time you open that plugin again, even another instance of the same plugin, and even on another project?

  2. If you change to another active plugin window with the mouse, instead of using the CS12’s menus, does the CS12 then “jump” to that active plugin anyway, so I can just grab the knobs to work on the plugin? To put it another way, is the knob section dependant on what plugin window is active at any time? Or what track is active? Or something else?

  3. If all the plugin windows are closed, or the active track doesn’t have any plugins, what does the knobs to the right then do? Do they then control the stock Cubendo EQ for the selected channel instead, like the CC121?

As soon as there is a video demonstration of how the CS12 works with Cubendo, I will watch it in an instant. :innocent:

Thanks,
Eirik

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