Unfortunately CC7 is still set to 100 on start of playback. Have I missed a new setting in preferences or somewhere else to avoid this? I looked under Play and Audio in preference but have not found it.
I mistakingly thought that in a previous version, the last version 5 I think, this undesired behaviour of Dorico had been abandoned but this is not the case.
Requests to abandon this undesired intervention with the user settings have been posted by many users, and supported by many other since more than 5 years**.**
I am asking once more as with the new version 8 of Vienna Ensemble Pro it is possible to automatically generate presets of whole libraries. A huge timesaver but due to the reset of CC7 by Dorico, it means that in easily more than 200 plugins CC7 has to be changed to another unused CC number which is not manipulated by Dorico. So this intervention is really very annoying.
Yes and that is the problem. It should take the value set in the plugin and not some value Dorico has set.
Each VSL instrument has a different value for CC7 as this CC is used to balance the individual instruments. It is between 67 and 113 and seldom 100. So one has to manually set these midi fader levels for each new piece, always use the same project template with the correct value or change the CC values from 7 to another unused CC value to avoid that the midi level of 100 for CC7 takes effect. Another option would be to let CC7 being reset to 100 and rebalance everything in the plugin using CC11 or rebalance in the VEP mixer.
I’ve set the values I want in the init section of my expression maps, but the MIDI faders override that! It would be great to be able to optionally bypass the MIDI faders.
Thanks Barry. For e.g. SY Brass Horn 1 VSL engineers have set CC7= 67 and for Horn 2 CC7=80 to balance them but they use the same expression map. So I don’t get around allocating a different CC or rebalancing.
What I did find is that in the new Vienna Ensemble Pro 8 you can copy and paste SY Player parameter controls. So if I change CC7 to CC127 for one channel and chose copy>SY Player>Parameter controls and then highlight all channels in the same instance, I can paste that change for all in one step. That can be repeated for all instances. On first view it works i.e. only that CC controller number is changed in the copy process.
Yeah, I forgot about that. I’m using Synchron Prime. I created separate expression maps for horn 1 & horn 2, same for flutes and oboes, and probably some other instruments. It was a bit of an experiment, but I had to go in and set all the faders to match the VSL settings anyway. I haven’t upgraded to VEP8 yet, but what you’ve said is food for thought.
Having separate EMs is indeed also an option but my EM list is already very, very long.
The biggest motivation is the rebated upgrade price. If you do not need video you can wait as there is not much new if you have used VEP7 for a long time and have all your templates optimised.
The new channel set library function is nice but you can do more or less the same in VEP7 importing channel sets from other files. What is disappointing is that the factory channel presets all use VelXF. As such fine but in Dorico they cannot be used with VSL’s own expression maps for WW, brass as these use the Velocity presets. For strings and most of the percussion it is OK as the EMs also use VelXF but most drums use VelXF Rolls.
I wouldn’t recommend the individual EM approach, lots of work and error-prone. If I need to tweak VSL’s settings, I’d rather do it in VEP. I have Dorico, Synchron Prime and VEP7 all working to a satisfactory degree, so I’m reluctant to tempt fate by changing anything at the moment, especially while Cubase 15 is deleting MIDI remotes! I am procrastinating about setting up a MIDI controller with Dorico to help with note entry and editing.
I don’t know why they did the balancing using CC7. I was surprised too when I bought my first VSL library SY Elite Strings (CC7 V1 101, V2 95, Va 95, VC 95, CB 71) after having used BBCSO for a few years which has all at 100. I thought I involuntarily meddled with the faders.