Sorry guys, I accidentally tipped him off (3 days before he posted this) in my other thread when I said:
I hope you all can forgive me for sharing our secret information with him 
And your response phlange is?
Don’t tell me they’ve banned him too!!! 
I don’t hope that comment reflect your general insight and credibility concerning this matter 
I kind of wish they had got into bed with roland-I suppose we all have a our likes and dislikes when it come to manufactures but for me it would have been great to see a retro selection of the JV series… oh for a VST JVC 1080 !
you could always jump ship to cakewalk as Roland took them over a few years back… just keep your eyes on ebay for a JV if you’re after one… they go for about £150 GBP and come up pretty often… one of the best £150 i’ve ever spent actually… no way i would get rid of mine 
I think that was the intent, actually, given that Yamaha had had some stumbles in that area. It’s a bit of a simplification, but the Japanese are experts at producing high quality products at a reasonable cost, an the Germans are software engineering masters. I think the collaboration has been great
Yes! And don’t put a measly 2 preamps in it, give us at least 8, and make them quality (preferably in partnership with somebody) – we don’t need SSL or Audient expensive stuff, but we don’t want pro-sumer crap either
Well, I think it precisely the mLan debacle that motivated Yamaha to hook up with Steinberg (and of course the general bebefits of consolidation in many industries these days). MLan was an innovative concept, but it had very dodgy functionality/relaibility
This post didn’t age well 
Cubase 13 is now the number DAW on the planet.
I think you are wrong Yamaha is a blessing for Steinberg they are the best of hardware and the best of software .
I think Yamaha have let Cubase/Nuendo do their thing so no issue with that.
However my experience with long term support for Yamaha hardware is very spotty. They build great hardware but if it needs drivers then after 5-10 years forget it. OK 10 years seems OK for a mid range piece, but for example the high end MR816 audio interfaces would still be awesome but for the lack of a driver to control it! There’s no reason to chuck it in a landfill ever. There’s lots more examples of this type of thing, and Yamaha aren’t the only culprits, but I’ve seen stung by Yamaha more than any other manufacturer. Which means I won’t ever buy Steinberg branded hardware again.
This is from Greg Ondo:
-Some of the interfaces that Steinberg/Yamaha did together they couldn’t get parts for do to a fire at the parts manufacturer’s plant.
-You will see higher end sales from the small entry level interfaces vs the higher end one’s (like the xo they put out).
-For some of the Club Cubases QA’s many users had asked about certain Yamaha hardware products. Pretty much Greg just said some of those pieces didn’t sell well.
But… Unfortunately here in Australia, there is exactly zero support from Yamaha for Cubase. Zero.
Don’t they have separate support channels?..
Don’t they all?..
That’s true … and for a mass market $200 product perhaps a limited useful lifespan is expected. Although the irony is that in the case of audio interfaces these products run over basic USB and will probably last forever! However, high end devices which are engineered for decades of use, and use less consumer connectivity ( Firewire/Thunderbolt ) should get ongoing driver updates, particularly if the protocol still exists in the platform OS releases.
I note that a MOTU Firewire interface I own which is much older than the Yamaha/Steinberg one I referenced still runs perfectly with the latest MOTU driver set … even on Apple Silicon.
Yamaha just don’t make gear with much of a future in terms of reselling, expanding on, or collecting .
On a lighter note, where will future gear-heads get their overpriced classic, vintage kit if none of it is even operable?
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In reality we don’t need that much gear , i will probably go back to windows 7 i like it more than modern Operating systems it is snappier and without strange heavy and useless features it is music making after all and not gadgets collection .
Firewire is basically deprecated, even with the latest specs it can get max up to 3200 Mbit/sec, which is less than what USB 3.2 can provide.
Thunderbolt on the other hand has clearly reached the mass market and is available in most modern computer hardware by default.
Of course Firewire no longer a primary transport protocol. But with a properly implemented Thunderbolt connection it’s 100% supported. So to the original question, there is no reason Yamaha couldn’t support it’s Firewire products well into the future. As a company it just doesn’t have this philosophy.
In my case I have an old laptop which uses a Thunderbolt/Firewire adapter to simply configure an MR816 for use as an external 8 mic inputs. An they are perfect for what I need. If the unit even offered a way to do this without a computer it would be an acceptable compromise.
Anyway … for musical instruments Yamaha is GREAT, for analog gear it’s a similar situation. Anything with a driver … no way.
Unfortunately this history ( it not just the MR where they’ve done this btw ) stains the Steinberg name.