Up to Cubase 14, I used to do what @Johnny_Moneto described, just plain old click and drag, no keyboard involved. Now I have to copy and paste. It changed with Cubase 14. I’m going by my own experience, and by what is stated in the official help web site.
Don’t forget, an awful lot of people requested re-ordering in the mixconsole - now they’ve got it.
You seem to be the only one with this issue. How can we help you?
BTW - for moving plugins no modifier key is required. For copying the Alt/Opt key must be held down.
The official help text states that reordering the channel requires to click on the fader section but we talk about the insert section.
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We’re obviously talking about different things.
While not exactly a solution for the OP, since you’ve brought this up, I figured I’d say I’ve had great success with some rather complex routing and preset “racks” with Metaplugin (ddmf.eu). It’s not quite as easy as some other “drag and drop” racks, but you have granular audio routing, and you can even use Mac AUs inside Cubase, which is nice as well. Just a quick illustration is routing audio left through Trash Audio Unit, then to Pro-R2 VST3 through to output and the Right channel through RC48. You can, of course have just generic “rack” functionality as well, but this really lets you be creative.
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I thought you were responding to his
animation since your reply directly followed that. I was specifically talking about copying plugins (with their settings) from one channel’s inserts to another, where it’s always been Alt-Drag (Drag alone moves the plugins).
Without quotes, and with timing of posts sometimes intervening, it’s tough to tell which reply is for which message. Sorry if I misunderstood which message you were replying to. (I haven’t used the reordering things in the MixConsole capability, which is indeed new to Cubase 14, just not something I typically need since I reorder things in the project view.)
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You seem to be talking about the entire channel’s setting while I concentrated on just insert plugins - the OP inquired about insert plugins, did they not? Maybe I misunderstood.
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Let’s put it down to a senior moment on my part. 
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Not the beans? 
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Yeah, them, too!
Considering the amount of content, I don’t think it’s limited to famous producers. Anyone can upload a chain.
For me it’s an interesting concept. Could be educational if you think through the processes. But maybe a time suck. Not a bad time suck, just one where you should conscientiously know it’s going to be distracting but maybe worth it.
I think Blue Cat also has a chainer.
I do use Studio Verse when I have a lot of plugs for a certain channel.
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With respect to StudioVerse (Audio Effects – formerly StudioRack):
Yes, this is true, and you can also save your own chains locally. I’ve got enough Waves plugins that I can often load the presets, and there is also a filtering capability to only find chains that include plugins you own. I think they have premium chains, too, but there are plenty that are available without extra cost. One of the nice things with their presets, though, is that they tend to set up the macro controls so you can easily tweak high-level parameters without having to dive into individual plugin details. Of course, you can also dive into the individual plugins if you like. I’ve sometimes used presets with the macro controls when I had tight deadlines and needed to just get to a mix quickly with minimal futzing around.
I have to say, though, that I found the old StudioRack interface more straightforward than the StudioVerse interface, and the less intuitive interface has led to my using it less than I did previously.
All that said, it is a powerful way to set up effect chains, not only just to save serial effect settings and to configure macros if you like, but also due to the potential parallelism and multiband processing that essentially allow you to do some pretty complex things that the plugins you’re using might not provide directly and that you might need to set up some complex routing to do otherwise. For example, it’s easy to turn any compressor into a multiband compressor using the frequency splits, or to make any plugin have a parallel capability by using the parallel splits.
One downside is that, like all Waves plugins, StudioVerse limits you to 32-bit data paths, so, for example, PSP Audioware’s plugins (most of which support 64-bit data paths) get ratcheted down to 32-bits. Also, the third-party plugin support is only for VST3 plugins, so Cubase’s native plugins wouldn’t work inside StudioVerse.
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Thanks. This is what I ended up doing. Though it would have been even better if Cubase allowed selecting and dragging/dropping multiple VSTs from one track to another at once.
With the current situation, even though I create dummy tracks, I still need to drag and drop each VST into the inserts one by one, which is a bit time consuming.,
Dublicate tracks is an option here, right? 
Don’t forget tho:
Evrything loaded into the project is ocupying resources, even empty tracks!
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Hey Antoine, thanks so much for sharing this tool… Honestly, I wasnt familiar with the concept at first, which is why I didnt respond to your comments right away. But since my post, some time has passed, and I went back to your suggestion. I tested it, and i really like that vst wrapper especially for what I want to achieve. Just saving a VST preset that contains my chain and loading it instantly on any insert is incredibly useful and this is basically indirectly what i wanted , instead of having to do some unpractical workarounds… I see a lot of potential in this tool . Btw I tested Blue Cat patchwork . I find it more intuitive than Wavez plugin , but yeah thats just a matter of personal taste
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Thanks for letting me know my post helped you.
Expressing gratitude is great 
Since I sent you that advice I also found out Waves StudioRack solved another problem for me, makes it easy to MIDI learn and control plugins with macros, meaning I can load FX for my guitars or keys and use my foot pedal or controller to remote control several parameters at once, with range and reverse. Powerful stuff.
Enjoy !
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Ha! Well you cost me $100 pal!!!
Even though I already had Metaplugin (which I really like) I did indeed check out Blue Cat Patchwork and purchased it. I know, you pointed to Waves, but Blue Cat came up somewhere and, well, that’s what happened.
You still cost me $100!!! 
Hahhaha I laughed !
But I thought you had Metaplugin, plus I recommended the free Waves StudioRack, yet you went out to spend $100 on BlueCat’s thing ?!
Well I hope it works out really really well for you !
I didn’t know you are that sensitive to seductive plugins being mentioned, I shall be careful with my recommendations so as not to get you in trouble ! 
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The human mind abounds with mystery!!! I’m just along for the ride, sir.
I’ll still use Metaplugin when I want to split off internal channels for sound design work, but I had already invested in the Blue Cat analytics bundle and wanted to stick with those guys. I’m actually rather reserved in my plug-in buying these days, and am really trying to focus on using what I already have, particularly when I find my mind using “GAS” as a method by which to distract myself from the real work. Not sure if that makes sense, but I’ve caught myself doing that. I think the BC interface could be modernized a bit, but I didn’t buy it to look at it 
My next test is to see how well my SSL UF1/UF8/UC1 controllers and effects chains work inside BC. That should hold me over until N14 hits and use that opportunity to rebuild my templates, presets, etc.
Good times.
I absolutely understand this very well !
The many forms of distraction are utterly powerful to take us away from doing our craft.
If you are into reading, The Art of War has clear-cut powerful passages about that, very solid and helpful to avoid traps.
But you are Thor, you can hammer out some great work !
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Thanks, guys, for your comments. Don’t worry hahah , I haven’t bought anything yet, just tested the demo version of some VST Wrappers and my rule of thumb is to never make any irrational decisions while still in the honeymoon phase . On first trial, the Blue Cat one felt more intuitive than Waves, but in a few weeks, if I find that Waves does the job just as well, I may stick with that.
Bottom line, I just wanted to say thanks for sharing this concept, I wasn’t familiar with it before.
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