Is there a way to save the Render Settings within the Audio Montage?

I’m fiarly new to Wavelab but using it professionally for mastering. One thing I’m struggling with… When I Render a Montage, I put in all the settings for folders, naming etc, it’s a bit of a faff… But those choices aren’t saved with the Montage. so when I come back to the project having made some changes after getting feedback, I’m left with the Render setting of the previous Montage I had open, not the settings from the Montage. so every time I have to go back in and reset before rendering. Is there a way to get this data all saved within the montage. I’ve looked through a bunch of stuff and all the tick boxes I can find but I can’t see it! Thanks

WaveLab has a history list for recent folders and names. These are shared. Are you asking for the same settings but private to a given montage? (currently, this is not possible).

Thanks PG1. Yeah, I’m aware of the folder history, which is excellent. I just wish I didn’t have to select it when going to a previously saved Montage, and then go and change the export settings. I was worried this wasn’t possible! What a pain… Thanks

Thanks Justin, I’ve got your presets too which are great. It’s just a question of remembering to set it! So like earlier, I rendered a Montage, then the client came back with ISRCs, which I added… But I can’t just hit 'render again, although I’ve already engaged my brain earlier to think about the settings, Ive got to think again because I’ve done some other work in between. I don’t really see why it’s not saved within the Montage, its actually within the ‘Montage’ tab on the screen. But hohum!

I guess, coming from Pro Tools, Cubase also, the ‘export’ settings default to those last used in that project… Because of that it’s led me to make a lot of mistakes exporting to the wrong folder or with the wrong text etc. In wavelab although I’m getting used to it!

Yeah, that function is incredible! I wish everything did that! Thanks Justin

Hi. I wondered if there was any plans to implement this change at all? Really continuing to be a pain for me. I have an assistant now and it’s annoying to not be able to leave projects ready to export for them at the click of a button - he has to input all the export details every time so I have to leave them written down. I’d really like to just have the export/render settings saved along with everything else for the montage. Thanks

Yes, there is such a plan in the next big update.

I’m not sure what your process is, but we have Render Presets saved for the various deliverable formats we offer. The Naming Scheme saved with the Render Preset creates the necessary file hierarchy and names all the files as we like.

Once the sequenced project is exported, it’s just a matter of selecting “Set source folder” in the Location box, then the Render Preset you want, then hit “Render”. It’s literally 3 clicks.

We never, ever manually change anything in any of the paths unless we’re doing something uncommon.

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that’s fantastic! Thanks

It’s more of an issue when returning to projects after feedback etc. It means I have to make the changes to the audio needed and then I’d like to just hit render knowing that it will export to the same place and using the same presets etc that I set the first time I exported. It is only a few clicks, but also invites mistakes in uploading to the previous client’s folder mistake, or forgetting to take off the ‘counter’ in dialogue - all things that need to be thought about and double checked as it’s final delivery of a product. Ideally I’d like it to just be saved as part of the montage. It is, after all, in the montage settings, so seems very odd to me that it’s not part of the ‘saved’ data for the montage. It could be that I need to change the way I work to eliminate this, but it is definitely a cause of issues for me.

Yeah, interesting – we’ve had everything automated for so long using WaveLab’s built-in features that these things you mention have never been a problem for us.

Not that it didn’t take a couple of months of head-scratching and frustration to get there, though!

Until PG updates WaveLab with your feature request I’d be happy to offer some suggestions to help you out, though frankly just about everything we do we learned from Justin :slight_smile:

So coming back to this topic; has this happened? I don’t see a way to save render settings as part of the montage in WL12, but perhaps I’m missing something. I’d really like to be able to come back to a project and all the render settings - especially naming scheme and format - come back with the montage. Am I missing something? Is this not do-able?

thanks!
rich

Generally, render presets are shared among projects or montages, hence there is no feature to store a particular render preset inside a montage. However, you have the option to store the render path inside a montage, with this option:

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On another hand, there is in WaveLab 12 the feature to save Render presets (and most types of presets), along a Project. Hence if you use Projects, you mostly get what you like. See:

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Thank you Justin and PG for your replies. PG, I’ll look more closely at these options to see if they help. In my case, I don’t care about Presets per se - I just want destination, format, and naming scheme all enclosed in the Montage - If these have to be in presets then I’ll have different presets for almost every project as they all have unique requirements, and it seems like a bunch of additional housekeeping and clicking around to make that happen. Sharing presets among different projects is only of limited usefulness for me.

thx!
rich

This is why there is this new option to store presets per project (but not per montage).

Philippe

I was very much under the impression that this would be included in this update, and in fact I thought it was listed in the release notes? However, I don’t see how to do it either. I actually bought the new version, realised it didn’t run on my old computer, bought a new Mac so I could use it, and so if it’s not there I’ll be really upset! I understand it’s not an issue for you Justin, but for me it really is as I’ve explained. I return to a project to make a small change and I want to just hit Render again, but instead I have to go and re-selec tthe correct folder - unlike all other programs I’ve ever used. The render page is part of the montage, it makes no sense for it to not just be saved with the montage. Where settings are shared between montages. It’s the rendering, not any other setting. Apologies if I’ve misunderstood here, but it causes mistakes in my workflow, and costs me time so I was really excited for the change. Perhaps it is there?

It says it in the new features release notes:

A dB level ruler has been added to the Audio Montage.

“The render path can be stored with each audio montage.”

Is this not the case?

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Use this, but if you want to have this persistent across session, you must use a Project.

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Ah fantastic, thank you! I got worried when I saw this thread but that does the trick. amazing