I’m sorry I was rude to you, your original post was actually constructive and mannerful and not arrogant and offensive like one other guy who constantly insults people who would like to have more insert slots.
I will now quote a few things, also from your first post, and give some specific replies.
“II would rather see Cubase have an ‘Insert Expander Rack Plugin’ that expands any insert into a VST wrapper which would be a horizontal and or vertical scrolling rack”
Afaik most people would like to see the plugins in the mixer without the need to open a rack. That’s why many dislike the VMR rack for example. (And great companies like Soundtoys make their rack optional, sorry, small sidenote). Point is, your idea would not be any better than existing solutions and I think I know all of them, some of which are really complex.
“This way, the large chain can be bypassed and the entire chain can be moved to different stages in the 1-8 insert path.”
This can be done already with third party chainers. I would rather be able to select several plugins at once - like you can select files or folders in Windows- and then drag and drop them or copy them; all from within the mixer view. THAT would be an advanced feature. Especially if you could even save individual plugin chains, say slot 4 to 9.
“I like the limitation of the current 8 inserts. It’s clean, and simple, and UNIVERSAL.”
Rather than to force a universal way to everyone, I would like to see a Cubase that people could precisely configure to their own liking. I can absolutely see why someone does not need more insert slots, and does not want the mixer view to be crowded with empty insert slots, he will never use anyway. That’s one reason why it needs to be optional and configurable.
“I don’t want 20 plugins on a channel with one causing a problem and having to look through them all”
That one causing trouble would be used in a group then, causing trouble there. And you have to look through them all anyway, no matter if they are spread across groups or in one channel. In fact it would be much faster and streamlined, when they were all in one channel.
“I don’t want clients sending me their Cubase projects with 100 inserts”
That’s just polemical.
“The exception to this would maybe give FX channels unlimited”
Would not look coherent if all other tracks were limited to less inserts.
“Clearly I’m not implying the fear of losing all inserts by saying ‘keep’”
No, of course not. You fear to lose the Cubase you like. That’s what I basically meant.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. The guy who makes simple guitar music should not be affected by
strange electronic artists who build complex textures or whatever.
But it does not have to be like this if it’s made cleverly. (See above and below)
“I’d like to see an official option with official integration in which there would probably be hard-coded integration beyond what any 3rd party could offer.”
You did not mention anything significant that 3rd parties do not offer. Maybe asio/cpu consumption could be better or stability but that’s just speculation.
“You also can’t see your inserted plug-ins if you have too many of them - how’s that going to work if you have 20 plugins on one channel and 2 on the rest?”
Depends on the mixer layout (and resolution etc.) First of all, I did not talk about 20 plugins. I personally would be fine with 8 pre fader slots, so 10 overall.
But to each his own so lets assume 20 slots. First of all, you could define a new mixerview so that it does not show anything else than plugin inserts and faders.
Or, it could be done so that cubase shows only a certain amount of inserts *** and you have to click an icon to open up the other slots below. Similar to how you can open and close Sends for example. That would be a little bit like a chainer plugin but it would be a coherent look and show exactly the audio path “in one go”.
‘’’ Important: The user should be able to define that amount in the options menu. When set to 8 nothing would change whatsoever compared to earlier Cubase versions. I would set this to 10 and the next guy maybe even 16.