Keyboard Shortcuts confusion

I use many Dorico keyboard shortcuts but don’t understand how to make use of those in the format of X,Z (remove rests) or C,D (change divisi). Pressing the relevant keys in sequence or all together doesn’t work and I expect I don’t understand some naming convention but meantime am still in the dark.

Edit: If it makes a difference, I am on Mac OS Tahoe.

Those are not standard Dorico shortcuts. Did you program them yourself? Or are you looking for help in programming shortcuts like that?

Thank you for your prompt response @asherber. That is very strange as I have not programmed them myself and have not had others using Dorico on either of my two computers. Also, shortcuts in this format (two upper case letters separated by a comma) have been in my copies of Dorico for many years and I have tried multiple times to make them work. I have a hard time imagining that I am the only one whose copy of Dorico shows these apparent shortcuts(?).

In any event, it appears the way forward will be to devise and then enter my own shortcuts in Dorico preferences.

As far as I know, keyboard shortcuts in that format are usually cmd-C,D (for example) rather than just C,D. That is, unless you have programmed the C key by itself (without any modifiers) to do something.

I tried this – you actually can program C,D as a shortcut.

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Yes, I have tried multiple modifier keys and variations in my attempts to get the internally listed shortcuts working but unfortunately without success.

Where are you seeing these listed as shortcuts? Can you post a screenshot? And maybe also your keycommands_en.json file?

(User config files are located in c:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Steinberg\Dorico 6 on Windows and /Users/<username>/Library/Application Support/Steinberg/Dorico 6 on Mac.)

On my Mac, the keyboard shortcut which I have assigned to Remove Rests is ctrl-cmd-Delete. The only time it has not worked is when I have forgotten to select the passage of music containing the rests which I want to remove.

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Both of the shortcuts from my original post are, in fact, included in Dorico preferences under shortcuts. However, using C,D as an example I have tried entering the C and D keys together (both in upper and lower case) while ignoring the comma and assuming it just separates the two letters and also along with the comma as a separate key but nothing has worked.

When I look under the Edit menu in Dorico one of the choices is “Remove Rests (X,Z)” and when I select a score item and press the control key, one of the possibilities under “Staff” is “Change Divisi (C,D)” while another is “Restore Unison (C,S)”. None of these has been entered by me.

Thanks @StevenJones01 . I will need to try new shortcuts and suggestions are appreciated.

Can you post your keycommands_en.json file here?

I can tell you that these shortcuts are not included in the factory key commands file and do not show up in my installation of Dorico when I run with factory settings. (I’m on Windows, but I don’t think that should matter.)

keycommands_en.pdf (31.9 KB)

Here it is. However, I don’t know where the subject shortcuts (& others in the same format) came from and they don’t work in spite of showing up as shortcuts in Dorico Preferences. I would be very curious to hear from the Dorico team re similar experiences of other users as I expect I am not the only one with this problem. (Please ignore)

Since that file came from your user config folder, those are all user-defined shortcuts, though I don’t know how to explain their existence if you say you didn’t define them.

If you can post the actual file instead of a PDF, I can try them out here. The forum doesn’t seem to like JSON files, so you can zip it up and then upload.

Thanks for your help @asherber. The important thing for me right now is realizing these shortcuts are not standard and in the circumstances I am less worried about them not working. I have already added new shortcuts that are working fine.

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It’s not the first time I hear problems like that, and I think the main problem (but I might be wrong) is that the first key alone is already used (C is obviously a note, and X is used in zooming IIRC). The only shorcuts I use with a sequence that do not involve modifiers is L, V. L<\kbd> is one of the very few letters that are “free”.

You can use modifiers for the first letter to see if that helps (alt ?). For filtering, I ise Cmd-F and then a sequence of unmodified keys and it works flawlessly.

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I wanted to correct the kbd thing but for some reason there is a bug in the forum that prevents me from editing my post.

I was able to set C,D as a key combo, and it worked as long as I wasn’t in Note Input mode.

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Ok, understood; I try to avoid this kind of limitation :wink:

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