First post here, transitioning from LP to Dorico 6 Pro. Transcribing a piece where the composer uses/wants ties to the barline, or at least close to. I tried, using a prolonged l.v., but it seems a poor solution, since it has a minimum length, and is not layout sensitive. Is there a way to have a tie/slur connected to next barline?
Alternative solution idea: write a double dotted halv note (but displayed as a whole note), tied to a hidden eighth note. How could I do this?
Thanks in advance!
Tons of helpful engravers can surely help you, but may I ask what spurred the transition for Dorico from Lilypond? For me it was playback and there are times when I truly miss the hands-on approach to Lilypond.
A combination of curiosity, want for playback and easier production of instrumental parts (with cueing), and sometimes just ease of use when transcribing. I also felt that when I reproduce scores for learning, the music tends to stick better in my mind, when following the input graphically, since that is how I read music.
However, I already miss some things from LP, like very complex time signatures. And I have the feeling, the default layout for choral music specifically is a forte with LP. As well as using referencing voices to produce a piano reduction that is linked and updates instantly (like cueing in Dorico). Maybe I am overlooking features that do exist, me unknowingly.
Right now I am just enjoying learning Dorico. Maybe I will use both in the future, for different purposes.
You could slur to a hidden grace note. Ties to grace notes don’t work. The grace note was added in the next bar with grace note before barline checked, and hidden in Engrave mode.
Jesper
Adding to @jesele you could also in Engrave Mode move that gracenote to the right, which extends the slur further
Thanks, also to @jesele – very clean solution, can confirm it works fine when it is the last bar of a system, it does not tie over.
Out of curiosity, is it possible to ask Dorico to display a whole note, but handle it as another note value? Like LP: g1*7/8 – rendering it semantically a double dotted half note.
I’ll add my next question right here, since is it is very related. Soon, I will encounter this passage. Any good suggestions? (In LP, I probably would have redefined a notehead as a fermata, and tied to that.)
You can create Custom Noteheads
You can do this with a tuplet. A double dotted half note is 7 eighth notes, so this would be 8 eighths in the space of 7, or 8:7e. You need to use Force Duration to get a whole note in the tuplet, then hide the number.
Here’s the tuplet in a 4/4 bar with an eighth note after it.
Or hidden noteheads.
Very beautiful. L.v. tie? And how do you get the ties (slurs/l.v. ?) to begin to the right of the note, not on top of it like a tie usually behave (as in asherber’s example)?
Beautiful. How to best condense the spacing, so I can fit many whole notes on a system?
You can use an open time signature and put a bunch of whole notes on each system. I only did 4 because that’s what your example had.
Yes, an L.V. Tie with a length set to 6 under Library→Engraving Options→Ties→Length. Perhaps @asherber used slurs. Here, the first one is a regular tie. With that approach, you have to use force duration and change the notehead to the Fermata notehead in Engrave mode.
Jesper
Mine were regular ties.
Perfect. I would like to do this change locally, not globally though, but they do not appear in the Properties panel. Do you know any workaround.
My imperative is to have this not as general tie layout, but at these l.v. places only.
