Latin Percussion patch and writing mode

Dorico
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I am using Dorico 2.2

My goal is to create a 5 line timbales kit that includes the following: Crash cymbol, Chacha bell, Jam block, Cowbell, Snare, High timbale, Low Timbale, Cascara (shell of timbale), Floor tom, and Kick Drum.

I have multiple questions:

1.) Under SETUP I added player/instrument “timbales” and “edited the percussion kit” to include most of the instruments above. For the instruments I couldn’t find, what should I do?

2.) This question plays off the first question. When I go to PLAY and explore the “Latin Percussion” in the HSSE3 library, I can find the sounds (MIDI 59 or 57) that I want for the instrument “cascara” listed above. How could I assign that sound to an instrument/player I can use in write mode?

3.) Is there a document or place I can go to find HSSE3’s list of instruments so I can see what the actual name of each unpitched percussion it is that I am auditioning?

Thanks!

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  1. If Dorico doesn’t have a definition for a specific percussion instrument that you need, I would suggest repurposing another one and editing its name, which you can do in the Edit Percussion Kit dialog. Make sure you make a note of which instrument you use for which other one, because this is critical to getting playback of the correct sound working.

  2. You’ll need to connect your percussion kit instrument to the appropriate percussion map, which you can create in Play > Percussion Maps and which allows you to specify which instrument and playing technique corresponds to each MIDI note in the percussion kit. I wrote a detailed walkthrough of how this all fits together, which you can read here.

  3. I’m afraid there isn’t, which is a shame, because it would be really useful to us as well! But I asked our sound designers whether they could provide it, and because these sounds came to us many years ago from our colleagues at Yamaha, I’m afraid nobody appears to be able to lay their hands on a precise list of the sounds.

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Thank you! I figured it out. I just needed to mainly wrap my head around what percussion maps were, and how they were used in relation to VST libraries. Took me three days, lol. I had to watch videos multiple times to understand. By the way, Anthony Hughes is the absolute best!

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I can’t find any editor in Halion to see the names of samples mapped to keyboards or there is no such editor?

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No, so far as I know there is no way to see the names of the sounds mapped onto the keyboard in the HALion interface.

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@dspreadbury, I don’t know if this is any useful.

Loading the sound in an instance of HALion 7, in the mapping page we can right-click on the keyboard keys and see the names of the files loaded in each zone. Here is the transcription, I tried to be as careful as possible.

Note Assigned Zones
C0 36 LoTune Kick+snp +-,13s.L36q
C0 36 LoTune Kick+snp +-,13s.R36q
C#0 DrRck_Sstk_037-R
C#0 DrRck_Sstk_037-L
D0 FK SN Pi OR P1.47(R)
D0 FK SN Pi - P1.14(R)
D0 FK SN Pi OR P1.47(L)
D0 FK SN Pi - P1.14(L)
D#0 CRA1 1.1.1(L)
D#0 CRA1 1.1.1(R)
E0 FK Splash 1.10.6(R)
E0 FK Splash 1.10.6(L)
F0 ToLoh1.1.1(L)
F0 ToLoh1.1.1(R)
F#0 HHCL 1.54a(L)
F#0 HHCL 1.47a(L)
F#0 HHCL 1.54a(R)
F#0 HHCL 1.105a(L)
F#0 HHCL 1.80a(L)
F#0 HHCL 1.105a(R)
F#0 HHCL 1.80a(R)
F#0 HHCL 1.47a(R)
G0 ToLoh1.1.1(R)
G0 ToLoh1.1.1(L)
G#0 HHPD1.43a(L)
G#0 HHPD1.43a(R)
A0 ToMih 1.1alo(L)
A0 ToMih 1.1alo(R)
A#0 HHOP1.9.11(R)
B0 ToHih 1.6alo(R)
B0 ToHih 1.6alo(L)
C1 PC_Tumba TipP4
C#1 PC_Tumba HeelP1
D1 PC_Tumba SlapP4
D#1 PC_Clave
E1 PC_Tumba OpenP1
F1 PC_Conga TipP1
F#1 PC_Conga HeelP1
G1 PC_Conga Slap3
G#1 PC_Cha Cha
A1 PC_Conga OpenP1
A#1 PC_Mambo Body
B1 PC_Mambo Bell
C2 PC_Quinto TipP2
C#2 PC_Quinto HeelP2
D2 PC_Quinto SlapP4lp
D#2 PC_Cha Cha
E2 PC_Quinto OpenP1
F2 PC_Bongo Lo 061
F#2 PC_Bongo Hi Heel 060
G2 PC_Bongo Hi 060
G#2 PC_Timbale Lo_066
A2 PC_Timbale Paila Lo
A#2 PC_Timbale Hi Rim_065
B2 PC_Timbale Paila Hi
C3 PC_WBL_HT_S_076
C#3 PC_WBL_HT_S_076
D3 PC_Shekere Down
D#3 PC_Shekere Up
E3 PC_Shekere Slap
F3 PC_Maracas Slur
F#3 PC_Maracas Stacca
G3 PC_Guiro Cuban Long
G#3 PC_Guiro Cuban Shrt
A3 PC_Guiro Cuban Swp
A#3 PC_Surdo_mute
B3 PC_Surdo_open
C4 PC_Pandiero Tip
C#4 PC_Pandiero Heel
D4 PC_Pandiero Thmp
D#4 PC_Pandiero Open
E4 PC_Tmbourim Fngr
F4 PC_Tmbourim Mute
F#4 PC_Tmbourim Open
G4 PC_Agogo Lo Tap
G#4 PC_Agogo Low
A4 PC_Agogo Hi
A#4 PC_Triangel open_081
B4 PC_Triangel mute_080
C5 PC_Ganza Accent
C#5 PC_Ganza Back
D5 PC_Ganza Foreward
D#5 PC_Cabasa 1a_069
E5 PC_Cabasa 1b_069
F5 PC_Caxixi 1
F#5 PC_Caxixi 2
G5 PC_Cuica Lo
G#5 PC_Cuica Hi
A5 PC_SWH_LO_S_071
A#5 PC_SWH_LO_S_071
B5 PC_VIB_HT_S_058
C6 PC_BelTreedwn_084

I also made a percussion map in Dorico, but I admit I’m fairly inexperienced at this, so the assignment of playback techniques is probably lacking. Nevertheless, here is the zipped
file, maybe it will save someone some typing.

HSSE Latin Percussion Full.zip (2.3 KB)