Finale refugee here again with a few questions about the layout and printing logic of Dorico. Here goes.
So I’ve got a suite of 11 pieces I imported into Dorico from Finale via MusXML. I like the flow concept in Dorico, and having these pieces in one document will be handy. I’ve not edited them all yet, but I experimented with trying to print the score and parts, and am flummoxed by the result I got in the print window. What I was hoping was that each flow would be read as a distinct part/set of pages, with each of the 11 flows having their first page with the title.
This is what I got: the scores all seem fine, but the parts are a mess. For example, if I look at the print preview of my Voice 1 part for the first piece (Flow 1), the first few measures of Flow 2 are tacked on at the end, but without the title or anything. See attached screenshot. From there, if I print preview Voice 1 for all of the 11 flows there’s all kinds of pages missing throughout, bars from one flow tacked on to the end of another, missing titles… you get the idea.
I’m sure there is a very simple fix here that I’m missing in the Layout options, but I’ve not been able to find it on my own.
As a related add-on here, I’d like for the page numbering to restart with each flow, so rather than Flow 2 saying “Page 26” for example, it says “Page 1”. Again, I’m sure that’s an easy set-up but with the above issues it’s difficult to sort out. See attached screenshot.
Take a look in Layout Options > Page Setup > Flows. There are settings there to make flows start on a new page, to use the First Page template for each flow, and to show flow headings for all flows. Note that these settings are per layout, so you should select all your part layouts on the right in order to apply the changes to all parts at once.
To reset the page number for each flow, edit your default page template and replace {@page@] in the page header with {@flowPage@}.
Edit: You may possibly not want the First Page template for each flow, so try it both ways.
In layout options go to page setup/flows and change settings: flows always start on new page,
Use first page template any flow starting at top of page, show flow headings for all flows, and any other of those settings you need.
You also need to adjust the template and/or the font sizes so your titles can show fully.
Thanks all, this is all good stuff and I’ll get to work on it. As usual, there is one crucial piece of the Dorico puzzle here that eluded this old Finale head - that the settings need to be copied to each layout, rather than it being a global set-up.
You’ve given me all the homework I need, thanks for taking the time to help!
Sorry, one more quick question if I may: I’ve got some cue notes in my score that are properly resized, but then in the parts these notes are appearing full-size. Is there any way to fix his beyond going into each part and resizing the notes again?
Hello again, with a quick follow-up question: is there a way to set the default so that the cue notes I plug into the full score are automatically propagated to the other parts/layouts, rather than having to do Edit->Propagate properties every time?
There may be a terminology confusion.
A cue in Dorico is created using the shift-U popover. In the target instrument, select where you want the cue to appear, then type the source instrument in the popover.
(Unless you change the Layout option) A signpost will show in the Full score …
The length of the cue is adjustable using the normal keys for extending objects (shift-alt-left/right). There is no need to propagate anything to parts, nor change note sizes.
Also look in the properties (lower) panel. Set to global when you want the settings to apply to the parts also. Be careful though, when editing part you probably want local.
I’m always running into terminology problems here thanks to my decades of Finale brain conditioning.
So let me try again:
What I meant to ask about - and called cue notes - were just notes I plugged into a voice in the usual note entry way, then resized and muted the audio in the properties section. I’ve not graduated yet to all the automatic cue note tools, did it a bit cave man style for now.
From there, I can see the phrase I selected is the correct size in the Full Score layout, but that re-sizing and muting doesn’t translate onto the parts (layouts? still can’t wrap my mind around these terms in Dorico). When I do the Edit -›Propagate properties. thing it works just fine, but I’m wondering if there is a setting so that when I re-size and mute a phrase in the Full Score layout it is automatically propagated to the individual instrument part (again, is this where I should say “layout”?)
Maybe I’m just asking the same thing here, and the answer is simply to not do it the way I did it, and to do it the way Janus suggests.
Coming from Finale, the Dorico way of doing cue notes is a dream. You will save yourself a lot of time and headache if you take a look at @Janus 's answer and the link to the manual that @jesele posted above and then do things that way.
Great, thanks so much. I agree, even with my uninformed approach to cue notes they are way easier to manage than in Finale - no external plug-in needed to mute them is a huge plus on its own…
