Looking for graphical issue

[Laurent_Bomont]

Hi everyone,
I wish I could do that (see example) in Dorico. I can’t find the way to create a box.

[Derrek]

You could take a look at this. More may be available via the search “eyeglass” at the top of this screen.

Aleatoric boxes font

I needed to make some aleatoric boxes for a client and found the existing workarounds a little fiddly, so I made a simple font for drawing boxes: [image] Anyways, I called it AleBoxes, and it’s really easy to use: AaaaaA draws a short box, BbbbbB is taller, and it goes up to WwwwW, for whatever height you need. I find 24-point font works the best for me, but you can adjust the point size for different line thickness. Of course you have to turn off collision avoidance on that text object, or …

[Laurent_Bomont]

Thanks Derrek
As I see, it’s impossible to do this directly in Dorico. I hope this will be implemented in future updates.

[jesele]

Something like this.

Jesper

box.dorico (918.9 KB)

[MarcLarcher]

Is that a frame with border? It’s been available for years (ok, we’re still waiting for a semantical solution, but hey, it’s there…)

[jesele]

It’s a Line with repeatable objects. The object is an SVG made in Affinity Designer that looks like below. So a white box with a dash.
The box is a double line with a terminal line.

Then just a text box with a border for the info.

Jesper

[Laurent_Bomont]

Jesper, you’re a magician
Thank you!

[jesele]

Jesper

[jesele]

This might be even better with the text box as part of the line.

Jesper

box.dorico (918.2 KB)

[Laurent_Bomont]

sorry for my mistake Jesele, it’s because of the automatic corrector.

[jesele]

I didn’t notice any mistake.

Jesper

[Laurent_Bomont]

I need rest

[MarcLarcher]

Brilliant. I didn’t get the main problem wasn’t the box but what is following the box. Thank you for this workaround (although I don’t think I ever needed this type of notation)

[jesele]

Thanks Marc.

Jesper

[Laurent_Bomont]

Hi Jesper,
I’m working on my piece using your brilliant idea.
However, I have two problems that I can’t seem to solve:

• the first concerns the box. Using the frame function is very easy to do, but there’s a problem; the frame is assigned to the page and not to the staff, which is a problem when I change even one nuance on another instrument, which slightly shifts all the staves and calls into question the positioning of the frame.
• The second concerns the solution you’ve given us. It works perfectly but I would have liked to keep the bar display. The only solution I’ve found is to position the dotted lines for each bar to avoid masking the bars.
  Best regards
  
  

[jesele]

I am traveling so can’t help right now
Jesper

You didn’t use my box which is a line and follows the bar.

[Laurent_Bomont]

Hi Jesper, I could use your file, but I tried to study on my own ( I also have Affinity designer )
But erasing the lines with a white background makes it impossible to see the barlines, which is easy to do with Sibelius.

[marilazar]

Hi @Laurent_Bomont. How could I create-use this box that, as I can see from your uploaded picture, is expandable in every direction.

[jesele]

I think it’s a Text frame. The problem with that is that it doesn’t follow the music. It’s stuck to a place on the page. If you use it then it should be when everything else is finished.

Jesper

[marilazar]

Thank you @jesele but couldn’t we create something that follows the notes?
Or is there something in Dorico5 that I didn’t find, yet…
In addition, is there any way to make graphics of the winds fingering like the one below? I made this directly in Finale.