Mac Monterey 12.6.9 no longer recognizing the UR824

A Recovery boot (Cmd-R-Power On) in Mac is not usable as a regular work mode. It is a set of tools to use to reinstall the OS, or to do under-the-hood edits with the command line.

On the contrary, the Safe boot (Shift-Power On) is a regular work mode, but with all the extensions disabled. Now that you make me think, I tried this as well a couple times. Maybe I should try it again, and see if with a different Yamaha driver it works. It obviously didn’t work in my previous tries.

Even without it, there is a couple ways to force the unlock routing be triggered, and they are these commands:

sudo kextload [path]
sudo touch /Library/Extensions

But they did nothing here (they triggered opening the Privacy & Security dialog, but no Allow button was shown).

Paolo

There is an option in the recovery menu … you have to ennoble 3rd party extensions .

Thi its what I did its in my first post but thee embed did nt work

It’s a policy change see above. I hope this works for you

Thank you, but what is suggested in that page is exactly what I’ve been repeatedly trying with no success. The kext policy change now dates a few years. As of now, it doesn’t seem there is a solution for Intel Mac users, since the new driver is only under development for Silicon Macs.

Keep in mind that the new driver will still need approval from the user. I fear this will still be a very dangerous solution.

Paolo

Ah I see … Steinberg should support this because there are so many devices out there .

Are there any upgrade opttions. OS wise or are you stuck on unsupported HW ?

At the moment I can’t upgrade, being in need of Intel processors for a few critical software. In any case, upgrading wouldn’t warrant compatibility with the audio interface. Monterey is still supported by Apple, and will be until the end of the current year. Yet, the driver doesn’t work. And there are several reports of issues with both Ventura and Sonoma, that will be supported for much longer.

I have to say that I don’t feel particularly compelled to upgrade to a new hardware. My 12-core Trashcan has an abundance of ports, is silent, is fast (much more than what is needed for music). Contrary to the most recent Macs, it’s also a design masterwork. So, I would like to keep it still for a little.

Paolo

Is there something in my system preventing the ‘Allow’ button to appear?

It doesn’t look so. I tried installing Avast, and the ‘Allow’ (‘Consenti’ in Italian) button was there:

So, it’s the Steinberg/Yamaha installer that is not triggering it.

Something else I did: cleaning the /Library/StagedExtensions/ folder from my system. There were some older Yamaha driver versions listed. I used the

sudo kextcache -prune-staging

command, that then changed itself to

sudo kextcache --clear-staging

But no success. Deinstalled and reinstalled the Yamaha driver, and the Allow button doesn’t appear. The audio interface doesn’t appear as well.

Avast - did you do anything in the boot menu for Avast ?

It didn’t propose any boot menu, if I understand what you mean. It was just the ordinary installation process in the Mac: run it, approve contract, confirm user for which to install, enter password, confirm.

At the very end, it asked if I wanted to open the Privacy & Security control panel, and I accepted, there, I found the dreaded Allow button.

I just checked I am on 12.7. 2. not sure how much difference it makes

I’m on 12.7.3. There has been a series of quick updates recently. There might be others before the end of the year.

Have you tried older versions of the Tools and the USB driver? They have several there that support version 12 of OSX. I would think a service ticket would be in order if you still can’t get it working after all that configuration and stuff you have done.

I’ve tried back to v3.1.3 of the Yamaha driver. In the recent past, v3.1.4 did work, at least after one of the latest MacOS update (12.7.3?). Then I did the mistake of updating to v3.1.6, and it stopped working. After that, I tried everything that I detailed in this thread, including a couple Safe Boots to let the Mac clean every odd component.

The Tools are not really a problem: dspMixFx can see the UR824, when not in class-compliant mode. The effects, I removed them, so they are not an issue. It’s the driver: it refuses to load or offer me the Allow button in the Safety preferences. It doesn’t make any difference if the allowance is already included in the kext-consent list or not. The installer/driver is not triggering that part of the system.

As for opening a ticket: when the external PSU broke, I got a reply (without a real answer) so long after opening a ticket, that I had already understood the problem, found and purchased a replacement PSU myself. Yes, I think I’ll also do that, to try everything…

Paolo

Sorry, I see you have struggled a lot with this for a long time. It sounds like going back to an earlier OSX version might be your only option if your ability to record is more important than other things.

I just updated my Mac to Monterey 12.7.4. Reinstalled the Yamaha driver v3.1.6, and – the UR824 reappeared among my Mac’s audio devices!

I don’t know what it happened, but maybe Apple fixed again something that had been broken with the previous version.

Now, let’s not touch anything else!

Paolo

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