Making room in the middle of a song

I have a song completed with some written volume automation nothing crazy. I am using EZ Drummer3 that runs right from the plug in, (i don’t know if I should be converting to midi or not). Anyway, I decided I want to make room for a whole new chorus in the middle of the song. I’ve used the range selection tool and just the selection tool to select everything at bar 12 and moved it over to bar 19. What I get is everything moved to the bottom of my existing tracks. Creating another set of tracks that begin on bar 19. I’m just trying to slide it over and cant figure out what I’m doing wrong. Further, once I move these tracks over, will the automation slide with the tracks as well? My final task will be to deal with EZ Drummer and figure out how to copy and paste to get it timed right.

I know there’s a easy solution, I’ve seen Dom use the new range tool and move stuff around but it’s not exactly a tutorial.

Use the range selection tool to highlight the distance you would like to add more events. Go to the edit menu and choose range. And then choose insert silence. That will push everything over the amount that you selected with the range selection tool.

For some reason that never works for me. (Go figure.)

I either select a range by selecting Parts on Tracks (normal Select), or by clicking and dragging in the Ruler, then right-click in the (Project window) and select Insert Silence.

Same destination, different route.

Have you used the range selection tool selecting all of the tracks?

And are any of the tracks frozen?

IIRC, locked tracks can cause problems with this as well.

Watch out for locked or frozen tracks hiding in the track versions!

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Yes! All tracks need to be unfrozen and unlocked, and don’t forget about unlocking automation tracks as well if you want “insert silence” to work properly.

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If you don’t use the Range Tool to make a selection, Insert Silence will use the Left & Right Locators instead. I almost always use this method.

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Didn’t know that … thank you for the tip!

Am I missing something?

Isn’t that what the Arranger Track is for?

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Beats me … been a Cubase user for a dozen or more years and never used it :laughing:

Probably another of the many CB functions I never got round to looking into …

I can’t speak for the original poster, but I’ll add my 2 cents:

For me, the arranger track is useful to quickly try out alternative arrangements, but once I’ve decided on, say, adding in another chorus in the middle of the song (like in the original posters’ example), I use the “insert silence” function to make space in the linear timeline for it.

The reason being that I like to see the full song laid out linearly on the timeline (instead of the arranger track making the playhead jump around). It helps me visualize the arrangement as I’m working on parts of it, and it helps me add transition elements that span part boundaries (something that’s almost impossible to do when using the arranger track).

A comment/question…..

After decades and decades, I’ve never once used the Cubendo arranger tracks. Likely because I come from editing on tape (still do often) and usually know what I want to do with multiple arrangements without much need to pre-test before edits.

I just open space & copy multiple audio tracks around from habit…..eventually exporting entirely different multitracks based on arrangement edits I want to keep (and future reload) outside the machines.

So the question…

if I were to use the arranger and set up some particular sequence of playback for a song….can I then also export the multitracks in “that” arrangement? That will reload into future projects with that now-burned-in arrangement?

If the answer’s yes, cool. I’ve learned something new.

I’ve always thought of arranger as just some sort of realtime on the fly thing to test playback…but no way to then export.

You can “apply” the arranger chain on the current project or save it as a new one having the original project intact.

Seems like the posts so far distill into a best approach of (1) make sure all tracks (incl things like marker and chord track) are unlocked; (2) set locators starting at the point where you want to add bars and ending at the number of bars you want to add; and, (3) selecting all bars and choosing insert silence.

Now to your second point about EZDrummer, your choices are: (1) in EZD, cut the part where you want to put in new bars and slide material there to the right; or, (2) drag the MIDI out of EZD into Cubase before you do the work there so you include the drum MIDI in the first process. One big disadvantage of dragging to CB is that you lose the EZD naming of the parts so you can’t look at them there and ID them. You also lose the the grid editor editing, at least in EZD3.

Good to know there are other linear folks out there that haven’t used Arranger either :laughing:

Alternatively for folks using Cubase Pro you can use “Process Bars”:

All great info. (I do use pro 14).

I’ll have no problem moving everything, unfortunately, my bars bleed over to the next musically, so I’ll have some cutting and gluing vocals and instruments that don’t fall on the bars. If I follow the music, and ignore the bars, then the more stationary instruments like bass and drums will be off.

Ha. The fun never ends, but worth it at the end.

Thanks to all!