Manual Staff Visibility Not Working

I can’t get Manual Staff Visibility to work. I seem to be following the instructions in Dorico training videos and other sources I’ve found online. Is there a global staff visibility setting that’s overriding the manual setting?

Hi. What is it you are trying to achieve?

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If you want to hide other staves, you have to check those boxes explicitly and tell Dorico to Hide them.

I suggest you first check Layout options > Vertical spacing > Staff visibility and make sure Hide empty staves is set for “Always”, that way you won’t need to use Staff visibility (it’s a manual override, so something you need to use with caution).

Thanks everyone. I didn’t realize I also had to select “Hide!”

Welcome to the forum @Ryan_Connolly !

If you want staves not to appear when they’re empty, there’s also a layout default for that which will automatically hide any staff that doesn’t have musical content in a given system.

Hi everyone!
Well I am having a lot of issues with hiding staves. It is really not practical.
• First, the fact that when we add a new staff, even by mistake, we cannot remove it from the manual staff visibility is really confusing.
• two, the fact that we don’t know which staff is which is also extremely confusing. What is Piano (a) or Piano (b) etc. Because even though it would seem logical that (a) is the upper one, (b) the second under etc., it is not the case (for me here at least). If you add a new staff on top on the first Piano (a), it becomes, Piano (d) for instance.
• Three, but above all, and it is the reason of my post here, the manual staff visibility does not work. On the example here: I want to show the third staff of the piano. I think it is Piano (c) (but I am not even sure so I tried all of them) i click on show, but it does not appear. And it is like that on all my score. I can “Add new staff” but not show the one that I have added and then hidden.
Does anyone have an idea why?

Thank you very much!

Hi, Samir –

  1. Yes, the only ways to really get rid of an added staff are:
    • Undo immediately, or
    • Copy or move the music into a duplicate instrument and delete the original
  2. Staves are always labeled from (a), from top to bottom. When you add a staff above the top, the original top staff is no longer (a), even from the beginning.
  3. Manual Staff Visibility works per-system, and is stored in the system break, so there can be only one setting per system. Perhaps you tried to set it more than once on a system?

Thank you very much for all these details, and sorry for the late answer!