Manual staff visibility

Dorico
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I wonder if someone can help. I’ve read all of the posts on staff visibility and they don’t really answer my problem.

No matter what I do I can’t get this top empty staff in a solo piano part to be hidden.

Many thanks

Steve

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Rather than Manual Staff Visibility, you can use the Remove Staff command, just as you added it with Add Staff Above.

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What are you selecting when invoking Manual Staff Visibility?
Can you post a project stub?

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thanks Mark the problem when I do this is that it removes the whole staff not just the part of the staff that I’ve selected. Thanks for your reply though

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thanks Michele. I select the part of the staff that I’m wanting to hide. Then when I go into manual staff visibility I select the staff and ‘hide’ - when I do this it deletes the whole staff

what is a project stub?

thanks for help

Steve

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Got it, I think.
Manual staff visibility will affect the visibility of a given staff from the beginning of the selected system (or from a selected system break) onward, hiding even existing content afterwards.
If you want to hide selected portions of a stave within a system, you should:

  1. select the rhythmic position at which the hiding should start
  2. right-click somewhere empty then Staff > Remove Staff

At this point you should get the same result of Manual Staff Visibility > Hide, but from that point onward. Now

  1. select the position at which you would like the staff to reappear
  2. right-click > Staff > Add Staff.

It should work.

A project stub—I hope I got the terminology right—is a portion of the project that you are comfortable sharing. Sometimes we work with copyrighted material or other IP, so extracting a copy and removing sensible parts creates a … project stub :slight_smile:

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oh blimey that sounds complicated and I agree with your ‘imo’ thanks so much I’ll try that now cheers

Steve

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Possibly then my explanation was not so good, let me see if I can rephrase it a bit!

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no, what you say I can follow I think. thanks for your time

Steve

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very, very helpful many thanks

Steve

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FYI, when you remove a staff, any music you had put on it after that point is actually not deleted! So you can add it back later and any entries will reappear.

And even if you don’t add it back, any entries on it still play.

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Thanks Mark that’s very reassuring to know!

Steve

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I would love to be able to hide and show staffs when I like as seems to be intimated is possible in a video by Anthony Hughes, but I cannot get it to work beyond this first entry

thanks

Steve

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Thanks again Michele.

the entry of the R.H. 3rd staff is fine, but if I want to hide it again I can’t do it.

I feel like I am really not understanding the fundamental principles of adding/removing staffs.

thanks

Steve

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IIRC you hide a staff by selecting it and using right-click>staff>remove staff. To get it back, select the staff above (or below ) and use right-click>staff>add staff below (or above).

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Select the next rhythmic position at which you want to hide the stave and repeat the process.
I’m not 100% sure now, but I believe you can do that also with the caret (bring the caret into position then remove/add staff).
Once you get to it, it will look like the most natural thing ever!

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THANK YOU. I’m getting a bit more used to it. Thanks so much